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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    But it is with smart access memory,so probably a bit closer on most systems. But it does leave the sub £500 market open for Nvidia,as we are already seeing details of the RTX3060TI and possibly RTX3060 being launched next month.
    Why doesn't that leave the sub £500 market open for AMD either?

    I mean, you're having a good dunk on AMD as a leftover from their CPU price bump, do you just want to get it all out your system

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Disappointing price on the 6800. We've seen recently that the 3070 is roughly on-par with the 2080ti in terms of performance, which is also where the 6800 sits. This won't disrupt any pricing, and makes a big opening for Nvidia to slide in with a 3070 super/ti for the same price as the 6800 with higher performance.

    Was hoping they'd come in lower than the 3070, but I'm not kidding anybody, I'm not buying AMD GPUs after the driver experience with 5700XT.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Why doesn't that leave the sub £500 market open for AMD either?

    I mean, you're having a good dunk on AMD as a leftover from their CPU price bump, do you just want to get it all out your system
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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    AMD should just price the old cards better, that will do very well for the 1080p segment, and as we know the 5700XT can also do 1440p just fine, but it just lack some of the new spiffy stuff.
    Pretty sure if Nvidia start to play funky with the price on 2070 / 2060 cards, AMD is going to play ball too ( well they sort of have to either way it is Nvidia that is going to hurt the most playing that game )

    I also like the the very short RDNA 3 mention that is is on track and looking good.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidflower View Post
    I'm not getting one

    If I pair a 6900 XT with a 5950X cpu, I'll still get under 30 fps in Guild Wars 2 during the most packed player events, at 1080p resolution

    The needs of mmorpg gamers have been ignored again
    That is the server not being able to handle it, not so much the personal hardware.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Either way, AMD take my money, never thought I had to say this, the the 6900XT may be my next purchase, well currently NVIDIA BSOD and whatever -_-

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Sits here waiting on the release of a 3080 (ti) with 20GB memory... (I'm stuck with nvidia due to cuda)

    Not that I'd be able to buy one because of stock levels.

    Hoping this might cause a small price war but as expected they're just priced around the same (so still 'higher' than most would like)

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    Disappointing price on the 6800. We've seen recently that the 3070 is roughly on-par with the 2080ti in terms of performance, which is also where the 6800 sits. This won't disrupt any pricing, and makes a big opening for Nvidia to slide in with a 3070 super/ti for the same price as the 6800 with higher performance.

    Was hoping they'd come in lower than the 3070, but I'm not kidding anybody, I'm not buying AMD GPUs after the driver experience with 5700XT.
    I don't think that's where AMD is positioning the 6800. AMD's slides showed a 20-30% average performance increase on 2080Ti which itself narrowly beats a 3070 in most scenarios. Accounting for cherry picking of results and SAM, if we even just assume a 10-15% average increase in performance on 3070 along with double the VRAM (which I would happily pay for) I don't think the pricing is unreasonable at all. Again benchmarks will tell but it looks good to me so far. It happily sits between the 3070 and 3080 in performance and price and offers double VRAM.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Agreed. 6800 is a 3070ti fighter, not a 3070. Nvidia kept their options open and they have a nice (for them) $599 slot waiting to be filled. 6800 at $579 is smart - offset a bit of the NVidia premium and better the power consumption.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Nice try but rtx just destroyed the whole market for few months

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by nacasatu View Post
    I only really play MMO's and would agree with you.

    GW2 and ArenaNet are awful for letting both their game and their client go out of date and not keeping up with improvements
    I think there was some talk on the forum saying changing the game to use DX12 wouldn't have much of a speed improvement

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Why doesn't that leave the sub £500 market open for AMD either?

    I mean, you're having a good dunk on AMD as a leftover from their CPU price bump, do you just want to get it all out your system
    Because there are no sub £500 AMD RDNA2 cards yet?? The RTX3070FE is already out at sub £500(barely).Next month the RTX3060TI/RTX3060 will be out just in time for Cyberpunk 2077,and that was reported by Hexus.ATM,it looks like it is Navi 21 that was revealed. The lower end SKUs are Navi 22 and Navi23,which are competitors to the GA104/GA106.

    If you followed two or three leakers,they got a lot of information accurate so far about Ampere and RDNA2. Paul from RGT in September leaked that RDNA2 would use a 128mb "Infinity Cache",256 bit memory controller,have upto 80CUs,and have clockspeeds upto around 2.3GHZ. He also implied from the same sources that Navi 22 and Navi 23 were Q1,maybe Q2,so I hope his sources are wrong on that. If not that is a few months of Nvidia having the sub £500 market during the part of the year with the biggest sales.

    I hope closer to the launch of the top SKUs,we get some more information about the Navi 22 based GPUs. I assume these are the 6700/6600 series. This will be the bread and butter of the RDNA2 range.
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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by lodoya View Post
    Nice try but rtx just destroyed the whole market for few months
    And back to reality..

    Infinity Cache! Rumours/guesses were right! Very smart if it works as well as it seems and overcomes the 256bus limitation.

    I'm less enamoured by the smart cache though, mostly because I'm a sour Intel user and don't like leaving performance on the table.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    I'll wait for the official reviews. I mean all these charts look promising, but it's interesting that they've now included a "Rage Mode" and "SAM" (perhaps as a counter to DLSS). That part concerns me, if they don't have some form of driver or software level implementation to counter DLSS and have to rely on hardware, what exactly are we going to be looking at as a performance hit for DXR? Is it going to be the same as the 20xx series with RTX turned on and no DLSS (especially if you don't have a 5xxx Ryzen system?).

    Pricing wise looks fairly ballpark, perhaps above the level I was expecting for the 5800/XT version, 5900XT looks fairly well positioned vs a future 3080Ti.

    As always, the devil is in the details.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    I think, while mid / low end gamer of course have wants and ambitions, then these like me are probably still on 1080p and so are settled on a number of gaming essential parameters.
    So i just think that these people just want to be able to play new games at reasonable FPS, and dont necessarily need shiny chrome and reflecting puddles of water on the ground to enjoy those games.
    The cheaper Nvidia cards that do support ray tracing smartness, it will probably only be enjoyable on a 1080p screen at best.

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    Re: AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

    Quote Originally Posted by QuorTek View Post
    That is the server not being able to handle it, not so much the personal hardware.
    This isn't lag. That's a different problem. Sometimes when I'm nowhere near other players, my framerate will still be around 20fps

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