AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

[DanceswithUnix]

My first 3D card, the 3Dfx Voodoo, had 8MB of ram in total. This has 128MB of cache.

I think my 4200ti had 128MB of ram. That's not helping

Feeling old now. I'll go get me liniment and the Worthers Originals and go sit by the fire in my slippers...

128MB divided between 5120 shaders isn't a lot, I'm surprised it helps so much vs using that area for more shaders or putting the cost towards HBM,

[kalniel]

but it's interesting that they've now included a "Rage Mode" and "SAM" (perhaps as a counter to DLSS)

Nope, completely different. They've got their own counter to DLSS (ML super resolution), but Rage Mode is basically a powerbudget overclock and SAM is lower level access to the memory on the GPU.

[chj]

That is the server not being able to handle it, not so much the personal hardware.

This isn't lag. That's a different problem. Sometimes when I'm nowhere near other players, my framerate will still be around 20fps

Surely it's the developers responsibility to make a game that runs on current hardware rather than a card manufacturer's problem.

[chj]

Performance exceeds my expectations however there's still rtx to consider. The pricing is close but who's to say Nvidia weren't intending to price it out the stratosphere and then once they got wind of AMDs pricing they changed pricing.

[kalniel]

Performance exceeds my expectations however there's still rtx to consider

I presume you mean performance in RTX features? It looks like every feature accelerated by RTX is also accelerated by these new cards, so it's just a question of how much by.

[liquidflower]

Surely it's the developers responsibility to make a game that runs on current hardware rather than a card manufacturer's problem.

Guild Wars 2 has been around for years and was once the second biggest mmorpg in the world. World of Warcraft is also still around. Card manufacturers have had years to find out the performance problems of mmorpgs and improve their hardware. They didn't bother

Current cards aren't good enough to run it at a decent framerate

[kalniel]

World of Warcraft is also still around

Yeah, though I wasn't especially wowed by AMD using it to showcase these new cards. "Look at that lighting!" :/

[cptwhite_uk]

I've estimated the 2080 Ti FPS, (scaled pixel height in photo editing software), and converted this to the performance lead a percentage and the aggregated estimated percentage lead over all games represented



On this information it would suggest the 5800 is comfortably between the 3070 and 3080, albeit more likely closer to the 3070. Still it's a sizable increase and along side the 16Gb vRAM might be why they feel they can justify it's $579 price. Still I think $549 would have been an easier sell, they don't have a TDP advantage over the 3070 here, so the perf/watt is likely to be very close.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I want to actually see how much AMD can beat Nvidia in performance/watt. If they can do quite well,this will work out very well in laptops,especially if AMD can get away with using a narrower memory bus to do the same job.

[cptwhite_uk]

If we take the given TBP of 220W for thr 3070, and 250W for the 6800, that's 13.6% power increase for a likely 14-15% performance increase (accounting for cherry picking). So basically they're likely to be neck and neck.

[Gentle Viking]

This guy is very eager to see reviews, even if i fear they will be on optimal hardware, so newest AMD CPU's and 500 series motherboards.
Something few of us have or plan to get anytime soon.
Okay it is still okay as some of the new things are only supported that way, would be interesting to see the same CPU/GPU but on a non 500 series, and then what the difference is.
I would be interested in seeing how it perform on a Intel system VS the other guys nearest competition, but even this is probably going to be on a very new Intel CPU.

Personally on a 1080p screen and a 12 core threadripper i assume i would be CPU bottle necked in most things, so maybe fortunate i cant find a game worth playing.
There are probably also a lot of people on older ryzen CPU's, that would like a new GPU and nothing else, so what can they then expect from a 6800 / XT VS if t hey had gotten a nvidia card.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

If we take the given TBP of 220W for thr 3070, and 250W for the 6800, that's 13.6% power increase for a likely 14-15% performance increase (accounting for cherry picking). So basically they're likely to be neck and neck.

Good for AMD that they managed to get onto TSMC then!

[[GSV]Trig]

Hang on, on that table the 6800 has a 4096 bit memory bus, that a typo?

[Iota]

Something few of us have or plan to get anytime soon.

I may decide to upgrade, it certainly isn't a priority right now. I'd rather wait for reviews and see how things pan out.

[chj]

I wasn't especially wowed by AMD using it to showcase these new cards

Haha nice turn of phrase.

[ohmaheid]

Looks like AMD are going to beat Nvidia to have ACTUAL products available to the general public.
Pricing is comparable, as is performance and power requirements.
The question is: Do you buy AMD, or wait for some undefined future date for Nvidia?