AMD unleashes Radeon RX 6000 Series, promises RTX performance

[Gentle Viking]

O they will have actual products ready to sell, for about 4 hours.
If you think anything else you dont get the basics of supply / demand 101

And if they have stock to last a whole day,,,,, then i will be very very surprised.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Some RT results supposedly revealed:
https://twitter.com/ghost_motley/sta...38287446695939

So AMD ran some DirectX Ray Tracing benchmark on the 6800 XT and got 471fps.

Someone ran the same benchmark with their RTX 3080 TUF and got 630fps

Source: Our super secret Silicon Palace Discord.

You beat me to it. I was going to post a figure for the 3080 there as well.

One more to add then: a stock 2080 scores about 308 fps.

Edit!!

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status...428519936?s=20

AMD tells me it's working on its own super sampling technology, similar to Nvidia's DLSS. It will be open and cross-platform, which could mean it'll come to Xbox Series X and PS5. DLSS is a game changer for Nvidia, so this could be big news.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

More details about the actual cards and the coolers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KAn...ture=emb_title

Edit!!

It appears you need smart access memory which is available on Ryzen 5000 series CPUs to get optimal performance.

[Corky34]

My first 3D card, the 3Dfx Voodoo, had 8MB of ram in total. This has 128MB of cache.

What's worse is it doesn't feel like we've got 1000x better graphics (shoot me if my maths if wrong).

Either that or I've got some very rose tinted glassed on.

[Primey0]

What are the prices for the cards in GBP?

[DanceswithUnix]

What's worse is it doesn't feel like we've got 1000x better graphics (shoot me if my maths if wrong).

Either that or I've got some very rose tinted glassed on.

Well, the games aren't 1000x better and the wow factor of first seeing a 3D card in action after software rendering I don't really think has been managed since. But IIRC that Voodoo card could only game up to 800x600, 4MB of texture ram doesn't store enough for decent realism and the ability to write shader programs seemed quite an improvement.

... or to put it another way, I wouldn't want to try and run my Rift off of an old Voodoo card

[EvilCycle]

I am pretty sure 10x ray tracing performance over software is what Nvidia promised with the 20 series...

I really want these cards to compete with ampere, and they do seem to do that in rasterised graphics, but I fear they will be more on par with the 20 series performance once you start turning all the fancy new DX12 features on.

[Phage]

What are the prices for the cards in GBP?

Straight $=£, so £650 and £1,000 (plus gouging and scalping, as per the NV lineup)

[ohmaheid]

O they will have actual products ready to sell, for about 4 hours.
If you think anything else you dont get the basics of supply / demand 101

And if they have stock to last a whole day,,,,, then i will be very very surprised.

Yep.
We will soon see if AMD can provide decent stock levels to their customers...Unlike Nvidia, who are busy covering their arses with
Scalpers etc. nonsense, to cover up for poor yields on their silicon.

[imshimaru]

were they all 2.5slots? I've only space for 2.2 max (leaving a small slice for breathing space).

[Corky34]

But IIRC that Voodoo card could only game up to 800x600, 4MB of texture ram doesn't store enough for decent realism and the ability to write shader programs seemed quite an improvement.

Oh look at you with your lardydar 800x600, common folk like me only had 640x480.

Also OpenGL FTW, or rather Glide.

[Spud1]

Looks like AMD are going to beat Nvidia to have ACTUAL products available to the general public.
Pricing is comparable, as is performance and power requirements.
The question is: Do you buy AMD, or wait for some undefined future date for Nvidia?

That is a huge assumption. Nvidia claimed they would have loads of stock - and actually - they did relative to previous launches - but demand was unprecedented for GPU launch.

AMD should do slightly better as they have had more time to prepare, and although the numbers currently show near enough parity with Nvidia in ideal conditions, with a Ryzen CPU, in games that Favour AMD'd APIs...if you look at the facts then AMD are likely to lose out by a few FPS in the real world.

All that said, I am certain Bots will grab 90% of the stock as they did with Nvidia, and many people will still be waiting until 2021 before they can buy one of these.

[[GSV]Trig]

Sooo, we have to wait next until next year before we get a <£500 card from AMD, wonder how many impatient people will buy the 3070 rather than wait...
I'm certainly not wanting to spend more than £500, and I am a touch on the impatient side...

[scaryjim]

... 128MB divided between 5120 shaders isn't a lot ...

Don't graphics shaders work with very small discrete subsets of the same data though? iirc the L1 and L2 caches are comparatively tiny on GPUs too, so it makes sense that the 'L3' would appear quite small for the number of shaders...

EDIT for crosspost:

Sooo, we have to wait next until next year before we get a <£500 card from AMD ...

to get an RDNA2 card < £500, yes. The RDNA1 and polaris cards are currently filling out the bottom end of AMD's stack.

[Gentle Viking]

Many people are not good with waiting, thats for sure so if NV can have some 3070 cards on the shelves they should sell well, even for me with a 5700XT thats still a substantial upgrade if i was in the mood to do that.
And many more are on even lesser hardware, my friend have a nice 6/12 core Ryzen 2 CPU but his GFX card are just a 1060 3 GB, fortunately for him, he also dont game, or at least not anything new his 1060 will have problems running.

If AMD & partners could have stock of these new cards, it could be a very very good thing for AMD, as the timing / circumstances could hardly be any better.

[[GSV]Trig]

A 5700XT would be an upgrade from my RX580 yes, but, I'd feel a bit meh about buying a new last gen card, unless the price was very good that is..