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very nice.
now cough up those reviews
Patiently waiting for reviews. it all seems to good to be true but want to see them compete so bad. Rooting for them.
The problem with this is the RTX3070 8GB is around RTX2080TI level performance but starts at $499,which is $80 less.
I'm not getting one
If I pair a 6900 XT with a 5950X cpu, I'll still get under 30 fps in Guild Wars 2 during the most packed player events, at 1080p resolution
The needs of mmorpg gamers have been ignored again
Good, i'm pleased they have at least got a comparable product now in "normal" scenarios - doesn't really matter if its a few frames better/worse in specific titles...the key is AMD are finally going to compete at the top end again, yey!
Too soon to say whether they will be worth it or not - we need benchmarks and for me personally, I am really interested in how well they perform with Raytracing enabled...if it lags way behind Nvidia on that score then it just rules them out for me completely.
I am hopeful though - the fact that the leaks have proven to be largely true so far, and the same leaks indicate good DXR performance as well, gives me hope they will put in a decent implementation and compete there too.
Next hope is that AMD don't screw up their actual launch like Nvidia did so people who don't own a youtube channel or who won't resort to bots can actually buy one
Sure, but is 16Gb vs 8Gb card. AMD wouldn't priced that much if they didn't compared the hell out of this cards.Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
The problem with this is the RTX3070 8GB is around RTX2080TI level performance but starts at $499,which is $80 less.
The more you live, less you die. More you play, more you die. Isn't it great.
Was really expecting cheaper prices if I'm being honest.
Sure I'll just go ahead and get a Nvidia 3070 now if I can manage to swipe one online somewhere.
I would've bought a 3080 but no stock anywhere it seems and I'm not going into some preorder queue for same, nor for the 3070 either, ridiculous.
So AMD not beating Nvidia on prices, near same on performance, nothing outstanding either.
Only thing they might have over Nvidia at this stage is availability of stock, maybe. Shall wait and see.
Also, proper reviews and teardowns need to be done on the AMD cards.
Thanks for posting the info though.
5700XT is overpriced
But it is with smart access memory,so probably a bit closer on most systems. But it does leave the sub £500 market open for Nvidia,as we are already seeing details of the RTX3060TI and possibly RTX3060 being launched next month.
OTH,if a 60CU RDNA2 part is faster than an RTX2080TI,than the 56CU part in the XBox Series X,probably is pretty fast too.
I only really play MMO's and would agree with you.
World of Warcraft have updated their game to include support for RTX though, which is something at least.
GW2 and ArenaNet are awful for letting both their game and their client go out of date and not keeping up with improvements but there's no where near as many players playing GW2 as there once was.
I would guess Black Desert Online and some of the upcoming MMOs out of Asia would include support for RTX at least.
The new PlanetSide Arena supposedly also going to include support for RTX and DLSS.
Nvidia are probably busy currently using their developer relationships to try bake in raytracing implementations which work well with their implementation and not AMD's.Good, i'm pleased they have at least got a comparable product now in "normal" scenarios - doesn't really matter if its a few frames better/worse in specific titles...the key is AMD are finally going to compete at the top end again, yey!
Too soon to say whether they will be worth it or not - we need benchmarks and for me personally, I am really interested in how well they perform with Raytracing enabled...if it lags way behind Nvidia on that score then it just rules them out for me completely.
I am hopeful though - the fact that the leaks have proven to be largely true so far, and the same leaks indicate good DXR performance as well, gives me hope they will put in a decent implementation and compete there too.
Next hope is that AMD don't screw up their actual launch like Nvidia did so people who don't own a youtube channel or who won't resort to bots can actually buy one
But if they manage to do that for CyberPunk 2077 Nvidia will sell well. Long term? Ampere might ages as badly as 2GB Kepler GTX680 did versus 3GB HD7970 especially since aside from the 3090 their cards are once again VRAM starved.
Give me a half way decent trade in price for my 5700XT and i will upgrade to 6800XT, even though i then have a new cooler i need to buy and a 5700XT one i need to sell NIB.
But the wiser thing for me would probably be to upgrade til a nice 1440p screen instead.
Besides i have never claimed to be the wise guy.
Also waiting to see if there will be any price adjustments when either brands cards are actually on sale.
They didn't go into ray-tracing specifics much so it wouldn't surprise me if ray-tracing in Big Navi is worse than RTX 20. They probably only added it because Nvidia has been pumping so much money into convincing gullible fools that its a 'must have' feature. Ray-tracing is still a fad and won't be of any interest to most people until it works properly. As long as its a performance hit its of no use in games until it actually has any advantages besides the pointless "look how shiny it is" bragging.
Until then its just a gimmick like 3DTV or VR.
So is a 2080ti. Stock needs to catch up before they will EVER go down.
So far it's looking very much like all the rumours (believable ones) are true.
Nvidia were forced to price the way they did, to preempt AMD, but couldn't get them to market due to manufacturing issues.
They'll likely pop AMD to the lower segment though, unless AMD have another surprise in store for us, but I doubt it.
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