Intel details its 11th Gen desktop processor architecture

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It is very interesting how nobody gives Intel any credit for keeping up while still being stuck on 14nm. Imagine if they had their 7nm sorted out...

I said this ages ago, they are still where they are despite being miles behind from a node POV...

[Tabbykatze]

I said this ages ago, they are still where they are despite being miles behind from a node POV...

They're keeping up by doing nothing interesting, each generation has just been a natural node refinement and that has what has kept the architecture ticking along.

That's why i give Intel stick.

[DanceswithUnix]

I said this ages ago, they are still where they are despite being miles behind from a node POV...

They built up a lead by a FUD campaign against VIA and Nvidia in chipsets and threatening anyone who went near AMD in processors. Intel pushed for high frequency with their awful Pentium4 chips into which they poured nearly all their misguided effort. When that came tumbling down Intel were saved by a small team in Israel whose mobile rework of the old Pentium III formed to basis for the Core series; so Core was luck and serendipity not planning. Their grand plan was to kill off x86 as a 32 bit architecture at the 64 bit transition and force everyone to use their Itanium architecture for which no licences would be issued making them the monopoly owner of the market.

I can only give Intel credit for being one of the most effective convicted monopolists I have ever seen. If I thought they were competent at CPU design it wouldn't be so bad, but frankly they just spent their way to where they are.

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I wasnt on about them from a moral company POV, I was simply on about their CPU's...

[DanceswithUnix]

I wasnt on about them from a moral company POV, I was simply on about their CPU's...

My point was that their CPUs were designed by some of the biggest teams out there with huge development budgets. They should be better than they are.

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I think the degree to which they have been hit by more security problems than anyone else says a lot about Intel culture and sloppiness.

Intel's past is littered with utterly dire failed CPU designs. Even the original 8086 was bodged together in a hurry and that is one of their better ones. The only really impressive chip they ever made was the Pentium Pro, which is why you can trace the lineage of the latest Core chips back to that one (bypassing P4 of course).

Or put it another way, if you can hire infinite monkeys in front of VHDL editors, then eventually you will get the 11th Gen Core cpu.

[John_Amstrad]

If you have Intel shares, sell now

[Saracen999]

They built up a lead by a FUD campaign against VIA and Nvidia in chipsets and threatening anyone who went near AMD in processors. Intel pushed for high frequency with their awful Pentium4 chips into which they poured nearly all their misguided effort. When that came tumbling down Intel were saved by a small team in Israel whose mobile rework of the old Pentium III formed to basis for the Core series; so Core was luck and serendipity not planning. Their grand plan was to kill off x86 as a 32 bit architecture at the 64 bit transition and force everyone to use their Itanium architecture for which no licences would be issued making them the monopoly owner of the market.

I can only give Intel credit for being one of the most effective convicted monopolists I have ever seen. If I thought they were competent at CPU design it wouldn't be so bad, but frankly they just spent their way to where they are.

I may not be the most sensitive soul but, somehow, just not feeling the Intel love.

[DanceswithUnix]

I may not be the most sensitive soul but, somehow, just not feeling the Intel love.

lol, I guess you could say that.

It all harks back to, ooh, I think 1987 when the bugs and datasheet lies in an Intel peripheral chip caused a project I was working on to act flaky and ship late because we had to replace that part of the design with something that worked. More recently, Optane dimms having neither the claimed performance nor wear resistance caused a product I was working on to need redesigning of that part.

Everyone gets bugs and errata in chips and usually you just work with it and shrug it off, but thanks to my professional experience I now flinch like a beaten dog at the mention of the "I" name.

... and they do things "little endian", and that's just wrong