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    UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    GAME, Smyths and Argos will be open for click & collect. UK Xbox launch is 10th Nov.
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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Is this classified as a non essential item in Wales

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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by rob4001 View Post
    Is this classified as a non essential item in Wales
    I don't know about that, but in England, retailers of non-essential stuff can continue to operate click and collect. Wales may (or may not) offer that under their restrictions.

    I must admit that the different regions having different rules is a PITA, but on the other hand, there's a logic to different nations, and even regions, cities and local areas, having rules dependent on their situation.

    It's part of the pandemic problem is that no one solution suits all. Which means complexity, and probably confusion.
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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by rob4001 View Post
    Is this classified as a non essential item in Wales
    Lets be honest here, it's non essential in ALL parts of the UK.... these companies are just using the 'order online and collect' loophole to get around not being able to sell it.

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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Lets be honest here, it's non essential in ALL parts of the UK.... these companies are just using the 'order online and collect' loophole to get around not being able to sell it.
    Well, define "essential"?

    I heard on the radio yesterday about a bloke (in Wales, IIRC) who went to his local supermarket wearing nothing but his underwear. "Well," he said, when challenged, "our government just told us clothes weren't essential".

    He has a point. And possibly frostbite in the unmentionables.
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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob4001 View Post
    Is this classified as a non essential item in Wales
    Lets be honest here, it's non essential in ALL parts of the UK.... these companies are just using the 'order online and collect' loophole to get around not being able to sell it.
    But there is an element of fairness here. Someone who pre-ordered online will get one so why shouldn't someone who pre-ordered instore? Its utterly unessential but does that mean no one should get any enjoyment during lockdown? If this lockdown continues deep into December, it's a question that will come up for a lot more than just games consoles (Should my kids get no presents for example?). Personally, I'm jealous as I wanted a pre-order but completely missed out.
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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    Well, define "essential"?

    I heard on the radio yesterday about a bloke (in Wales, IIRC) who went to his local supermarket wearing nothing but his underwear. "Well," he said, when challenged, "our government just told us clothes weren't essential".

    He has a point. And possibly frostbite in the unmentionables.
    To be fair, I do find the fact clothes aren't 'essential' as a bit daft.... I can understand 'fashion' clothes but 'day to day' wear is kind of needed... mind you I also think we should be taxing the companies that get to stay open (like tesco's and the likes) a bit harder to pay for those that aren't able to stay open, it's not like they're getting record sales or anything during the pandemic because we can't shop anywhere else, oh wait....

    At the end of the day clothes are kind of legally necessary last time I checked, a game console is not, so that would be how I'd define something as 'essential' outside of food etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    But there is an element of fairness here. Someone who pre-ordered online will get one so why shouldn't someone who pre-ordered instore? Its utterly unessential but does that mean no one should get any enjoyment during lockdown? If this lockdown continues deep into December, it's a question that will come up for a lot more than just games consoles (Should my kids get no presents for example?). Personally, I'm jealous as I wanted a pre-order but completely missed out.
    They could have offered up 'free delivery' to all those that pre-order(ed), most of the companies mentioned have online sales too, no need to open the store up and increase potential cross contamination from queues etc. What's the point in a lock down if you aren't actually 'locked down'.

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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    They could have offered up 'free delivery' to all those that pre-order(ed), most of the companies mentioned have online sales too, no need to open the store up and increase potential cross contamination from queues etc. What's the point in a lock down if you aren't actually 'locked down'.
    My understanding for GAME is that the high street is a different part of the business to online which would have made the change over more complex. There is also the case of some people being unable to take deliveries (Not everyone is lucky enough to WFH). I'm sure some places will switch over to deliveries but it can't be the only solution. (When you consider Argos it sounds like they are offering Click and Collect for everything else anyway.)
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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    Well, define "essential"?
    Beer with just enough oxygen so you survive long enough to drink it all.

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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Moving on to another popular high street and online games hardware seller that isn't a supermarket, Argos
    Which is part of the Sainsbury's group. Some Argos stores will close and those staff will help out in the supermarkets, likely the Sainsbury's which have an Argos in-store. Not entirely sure how this works out for Wales with their restrictions on what is and isn't deemed essential by some nobody politician.

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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Beer with just enough oxygen so you survive long enough to drink it all.
    Right. I'm coming round to your place for a .... game session. Sounds like a hoot.
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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    It's nothing to do with 'essential' retail stores with Click and Collect are allowed to be open for customers to collect, just not go in and browse and buy. My other half works for a shop that has always had click and collect and they're open for this purpose because they're allowed to be.

    There is no 'loophole', it's what has been stated in the restrictions.

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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    Quote Originally Posted by probedb View Post
    ....

    There is no 'loophole', it's what has been stated in the restrictions.
    It is indeed.

    BUT bear in mind that, largely due to a leak, what we got was :-

    - First, what the government said,
    - Second, what the media reported and/or editorialised, and then
    - Third, what the guidance and/or regs actually said.

    And there was a delay before the third bit.

    So yes, it's not a loophole. It's an exception, to the principle that all "non-essential" retail should close.

    Arguably, there's even a :-

    - Fourth, what the public heard, think they heard, and/or understand it to have been.

    In large part, that's due to media (mainly TV) "editorialising". And they love doing it, and by no means just on this. It goes back decades, at least.
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    Re: UK shops look for next gen console lockdown sale loopholes

    In my opinion next gen consoles should be sold only by Microsoft and Sony.All stock in one place, easy to manage and easier to stop scalpers.

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