Intel says AMD laptops sacrifice performance for battery life

[HEXUS]

It claims its tests show AMD scaling back perf by nearly 40 per cent on battery power.

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[ik9000]

wow. The desperation at intel is almost tangible. What's the next stage? Cry fake news and create a conspiracy theory agenda?

[[GSV]Trig]

AMD really has caught a lot of people off guard to the point they're just scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to excuses about their own performance, lack of improvement and stock availability..

Normally we'd get new products or lower prices, so the consumer wins, but at the mo we get nothing but excuses....

[Tabbykatze]

Considering how many reviewers are saying how good the battery life is with decent on battery performance to boot? This was a highly selective bunch of BS from Intel, another Principled Technologies.

ArsTechnica did some checks on a laptop Intel had and had this to say:

This MSI Prestige 14 Evo—and its Core i7-1185G7 CPU—is a barn-burner, sure. But the "burn" is a little more literal than we'd prefer, with CPU temps screaming up to 94°C, and CPU power consumption of 34W sustained during Cinebench R23 testing.

The Ryzen 7 Pro 4750u in this HP EliteBook laptop stays relatively cool and quiet during its Cinebench R23 run, with max power consumption a whopping 21W lower than the i7-1185G7's.

But Intel is still playing games with its own power consumption. In the above screenshot, we can see the MSI Prestige Evo 14 with Core i7-1185G7 during a Cinebench R23 run. We haven't had this laptop for long enough to fully review it—and particularly, to review its battery life, which we've been very curious about since being forbidden to test that stat in two earlier i7-1185G7 systems.

But we can see that—rather than dial the i7-1185G7's cTDP down to something approximating the typical Ryzen 7 4000 cTDP of 15W, as widely expected—MSI has in this laptop chosen to dial it up even further than what we saw in earlier prototypes. This production i7-1185G7 system has a variable PL1 that hits as high as 36W during the course of a Cinebench R23 run—in addition to its PL2 of 51W, which is unchanged from the prototypes.

But this ignores the greater efficiency of the AMD systems, above and beyond the delayed shift to maximum performance (and battery consumption) states in the CPU. When we run Cinebench R23 for five full minutes, a Ryzen 7 Pro 4750u system renders more scenes than the Intel i7-1185G7, and it does so with less total power consumed. There's no clever trick to explain that away.

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There are quite a few videos from reviewers where the battery life coupled with performance from AMDs side was far superior to Intels 10th gen so unless there is a crazy magic smoke going on inside Intel Tiger Lake, I bet that reviewers are going to be finding that this hit piece behind closed doors by Intel, likely pushed and masterminded by Ryan Shrout whom historically, notoriously, had his tongue up the chutney tunnel of Intel so far he even got a high up role there makes this so devious.

The moral and ethical decay going on inside Intel is just disgusting.

I also am a bit miffed that Hexus was quite muted in this news post, this kind of thing from Intel should not be tolerated and unlike other reviewers whom are hitting this down how it should be, being muted just adds a little bit of "je ne sais quoi"...

Edit: It gets even better!

The blue bar represents the average score the Intel and AMD laptops achieve in the MobileMark 18 benchmark, showing Intel more than 50% in the lead. Additionally, it shows battery life in minutes, where AMD is given the win by around an hour. Most of you have probably never heard of MobileMark 18, and I hadn’t either, and it turns out that this is a benchmark from BapCo, one of Intel’s satellite benchmark companies. So Intel basically gave themselves this 50% win. Furthermore, battery life is not measured with an actual benchmark, but is based on nothing more than the battery size, which is obviously a very misleading way to show battery life.

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So Intel is using another benchmarking suite that is likely strongly optimised for Intel systems through compilers because noooo, Intel has never made and distributed a compiler that detriments an AMD system!

[Ttaskmaster]

Childish spat between two childish tech monopolies, over who gets to monopolise more of my Monopoly money?

Thank-you for bringing it to my attention. Wake me when things have quietened down a bit.

[Iota]

Usual Intel shenanigans then?

Also, what is with the recent Hexus comment threads all being invalid? This one links to this;

https://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=7094

Which leads to this;

No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

[Tabbykatze]

Usual Intel shenanigans then?

Also, what is with the recent Hexus comment threads all being invalid? This one links to this;



Which leads to this;

Anything posted since monday is doing that for me

[ik9000]

Usual Intel shenanigans then?

Also, what is with the recent Hexus comment threads all being invalid? This one links to this;



Which leads to this;

see here https://forums.hexus.net/hexus-sugge...hexus-bug.html

[Tabbykatze]

I’m not sure “AMD is gaming the benchmarks by giving our CPUs a ten second head start!” is the damning indictment you think it is, Intel.

A commenter on that ARS article, that should have been the article tagline xD

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

CD from SA said on Twitter a while back Intel was ramping up OEM funds to try and stop AMD getting into better laptops.

[Tabbykatze]

CD from SA said on Twitter a while back Intel was ramping up OEM funds to try and stop AMD getting into better laptops.

And it'll be 10 years before they're caught and fined again.

I really hope that OEMs are going to stand up to Intel, we can't have another ten years of BS from them again.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

And it'll be 10 years before they're caught and fined again.

I really hope that OEMs are going to stand up to Intel, we can't have another ten years of BS from them again.

Its really annoying when less techy mates after specific laptop models,and they are mostly Intel 4C/8T CPUs!

[Tabbykatze]

Its really annoying when less techy mates after specific laptop models,and they are mostly Intel 4C/8T CPUs!

It's really poisonous to the industry as a whole.

I wish I could recommend more AMD laptops, but the designs are mostly garbage, like nearly no OEM doing an AMD laptop with anything bigger than a 2060!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It's really poisonous to the industry as a whole.

I wish I could recommend more AMD laptops, but the designs are mostly garbage, like nearly no OEM doing an AMD laptop with anything bigger than a 2060!

It is especially the premium thin and light,and ruggedised laptops being mostly Intel too. The AMD APUs make more sense for those premium segments as they are simply better all-round SOCs IMHO.

[Tabbykatze]

It is especially the premium thin and light,and ruggedised laptops being mostly Intel too. The AMD APUs make more sense for those premium segments as they are simply better all-round SOCs IMHO.

They really are, i really wish authorities would be faster to react and investigate, if they don't act soon then the same thing will happen again.

Some people will say that the "absence of information is not confirmation", well it can be argued that the omission of information/absence of tangibility can be justified that something is happening...

[ik9000]

It is especially the premium thin and light,and ruggedised laptops being mostly Intel too. The AMD APUs make more sense for those premium segments as they are simply better all-round SOCs IMHO.

yup. I went searching and came to the same conclusion. Why no 4000U in say an XPS or similar? Most... puzzling.