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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    Ampere for me. 3080FE will fit in my rig. Would really like a cut down 3080 sold as a 3070ti (possible if yields are poor). Seems to be the natural fit for something to mix it with the 6800 and 6800XT.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    My RTX 3090 is quietly idling and awaiting the next game to awaken it's beastly nature.

    I picked my flavor between AMD and Nvidia when I lost faith in AMD's ray tracing performance potential for this generation. Ray tracing + DLSS works in many games I already play, and many games I want to play coming out. And they work well.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidflower View Post
    Neither

    They're both bad for mmorpgs
    Why are they bad for MMORPGs?

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    I'll judge when they're out of proof of concept stage. Though honestly I'm not sure, dlss and better raytracing performance could be nice, but I'm not so sure about the memory capacity. I'm not wanting to spend hundreds on something that could be bottlenecked with next gen consoles possibly pushing texture quality.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    If I could get a 6800xt at MRRP I'd buy it. Not too bothered about Ray Tracing really and I think the current Nvidia Ampere variants are being a little too stingy with the memory, aside from the ridiculously priced 3090. I think they'll have something as good as that, at a far more reasonable price soon (3080ti?).

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    Due to the stock issues, I haven't bothered to read enough about them to really say.

    But I'd probably go for a lower-end, yet-to-debut option anyway. The RX 5600 looks like about the sweet spot for what I'd be looking for.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    I want to get my hands on two Geforce RTX 3080 cards, but they are nowhere to be found.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    I would have to go with AMD, i have been with Nvidia for so long, but now that AMD finally have their head out of the smelly place i want to reward that.
    BUT TBH the prices for either ( not the top models ) are a bit higher than i would like to pay for any GFX card, not least now that i am on a pension and no one make a bloody game i would like to play.
    Still ! i do pray RDNA 3 will not go even more expensive, cuz that is what i have my eyes set on if my 5700XT can last for that long.

    I would also like to know why any GFX card are bad for mmorpgs games ?
    And know what cards the millions of people playing those games then use, or maybe mmorpg players are just settling for measly performance as they are so addicted to that particular game genre.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    WHY AMD: Nvidia's anti-competitive practices have bored me for years and even if they have better things I will ditch them anytime-anyseason.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    Still fine with my 2070 Super at 1440p.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    A paper survey to go with the paper launch of Nvidia and AMD latest and greatest lol. With none availability and resellers price gouging how can one possibly make a call atm?

    I don't favour one over another any more. Slightly prefer Nvidia drivers model but had several hardware failures in recent years. So no longer willing to buy the top of range model at silly prices. Just comes down to price/performance ratio for mid-range.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    seeing as prices for mid range cards is well stupid atm .. i'll hold on to my vega64 .. ray tracing ?? it's only there when you stop to look at it ..
    3070's and 6800's should be £450 ish non of this £6-800 stuff but the thing is people are buying it .. yes 7nm expensive atm but they get more chips per wafer so it should be cheaper ..
    anyhow will wait for next yr for my last build a good 5nm should last me till i'm dead .. getting way to old to play keyboards filling with arthritis cream and i'm wearing 2 pairs of glasses
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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    Why are they bad for MMORPGs?
    Mmorpgs, especially Guild Wars 2, have lots of player character models to draw in detail when they're near you on the map, and lots of flashy visual effects to draw for skills

    A Nvidia 1080 card at 1080p resolution gives around 12 fps at full map player events on full quality settings. The 3090 and 6900 are only around 100% faster, so their framerate will only be around 24 fps

    It's pretty unplayable. Certainly won't be smooth gameplay or enjoyable

    And to get that low framerate, you have to pay £1000 for a card

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidflower View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    Why are they bad for MMORPGs?
    Mmorpgs, especially Guild Wars 2, have lots of player character models to draw in detail when they're near you on the map, and lots of flashy visual effects to draw for skills

    A Nvidia 1080 card at 1080p resolution gives around 12 fps at full map player events on full quality settings. The 3090 and 6900 are only around 100% faster, so their framerate will only be around 24 fps

    It's pretty unplayable. Certainly won't be smooth gameplay or enjoyable

    And to get that low framerate, you have to pay £1000 for a card
    Basically ancient crappy CPU limited games. NOT MMORPG's in general, you mean old crappy MMORPG's that are purely CPU limited to begin with because the graphics are so low quality that GPU upgrades just don't matter due to poorly coded CPU strings crashing during large player events.

    Seriously, LAME example given, MMORPG's with good code management and excellent graphics push new GPUs just fine, you are WAY over-generalizing the entire genre. Older crap is always CPU limited, and stack poor event coding on top of that and no GPU in the world will save you from your poor choice of games.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    want something that can have superior fps at 1440p, not interested in Ray tracing...so yeah leaning towards AMD at this time.

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    Re: QOTW: Nvidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2, which do you favour?

    Well technically it's a moot point right now given the lack of availability of either but, that aside, at the moment I'd favour AMD.

    The 3080's 10GB just isn't enough for a 'flagship' card in 2020, IMO. That's less than my 3.5-year old 1080Ti has, and even that's only just coping with Flight Sim 2020 at 1440p in terms of VRAM usage (hovers around 10.5-10.7GB). 16GB seems far more realistic and future proof to me in this day and age.

    I'm not overly bothered about ray-racing either, nothing I've seen in those 'RTX On' videos makes me think that top-drawer RT performance is a must-have.

    I considered waiting to see what the 3080Ti looks like next year, but I'm guessing it'll be expensive. So, if I can pick up a 6800XT in the meantime then I will do.

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