Retail listings confirm key AMD Ryzen 5000 Mobile CPU specs

[HEXUS]

As expected, some Ryzen 5000H/5000U Series are Zen 2, others have Zen 3 CPU cores.

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[Spud1]

Could be really interesting if they can get their heat issues under control - and find a way to squeeze one of these chips into a proper 13" chassis.

The Zephyrus 14 was so close, but it was plasticy, very loud and very hot - so didn't quite fit the bill as an ultrabook. Hopefully this year someone will take one of these chips, combine with one of the RTX30 series Max Q that we're expecting, and put it in an aluminium ultrabook chassis.

I will keep dreaming, I don't think it's quite realistic yet...but we'll see!

edit: Didn't think about it at the time, but if AMD released an RDNA2 mobile chipset that could be even better - as much as I am a fan of DXR on desktop, it's much less important on a laptop imo so this could be a huge opportunity.

[deksman2]

Could be really interesting if they can get their heat issues under control - and find a way to squeeze one of these chips into a proper 13" chassis.

The Zephyrus 14 was so close, but it was plasticy, very loud and very hot - so didn't quite fit the bill as an ultrabook. Hopefully this year someone will take one of these chips, combine with one of the RTX30 series Max Q that we're expecting, and put it in an aluminium ultrabook chassis.

I will keep dreaming, I don't think it's quite realistic yet...but we'll see!

edit: Didn't think about it at the time, but if AMD released an RDNA2 mobile chipset that could be even better - as much as I am a fan of DXR on desktop, it's much less important on a laptop imo so this could be a huge opportunity.

Asus is not really good when it comes to thermal performance.
I previously bought a GL702ZC laptop (which was a 17" desktop replacement with Ryzen 1700 and RX 580) which ended up breaking down all the time (the motherboard fried itself twice with the same issue and Asus insistently kept 'repairing' it as opposed to replacing it) because apparently the laptop's cooling was badly designed.
It was also excessively loud (it was impossible to game on it when you stressed it to the maximum).
I finally managed to get my money back by basically saying they breached my consumer rights and bought myself the Acer Predator Helios 500 PH517-61 (desktop replacement) with Ryzen 2700 and Vega 56.

That one I still have (for over a year now). Its amazingly quiet under maximum load (barely audible), its temperatures are also very low.
CPU maxes out at maybe 72 degrees Celsius, and GPU (limited to 120W TDP) doesn't exceed 65 degrees Celsius - these temperatures are with BOTH CPU and GPU running maxed out simultaneously for EXTENDED periods of time (no slowdowns, no unwanted noise or high temps).

Oh and, my Vega 56 is only 5-10% slower than the full desktop TDP unlocked version despite being limited to 120W TDP.

Its an amazingly well designed machine, but Acer DID mention they reworked the cooling to specifically accommodate AMD (which is something most OEM's don't do).

OEM's end up slapping generic cooling on most laptops, they cut corners and hope consumers won't notice.

I also noticed that this latest generation of laptops allows highly efficient CPU's (like Zen 2) to reach over 90 degrees Celsius when they are fully stressed.
This is unacceptable to me and I blame the OEM's entirely.

The only notable exception is the Eluktronics RP-15 which has a really good cooling.
The 4800H in that thing doesn't exceed 85 degrees celsius, and the GPU (RTX 2060) goes up to maybe 80 degrees celsius (and its allowed to raise its TDP to 110W for gaining extra performance).


I'm very critical of laptop OEM's... so I tend to be very attentive when it comes to laptop quality control and cooling (not to mention internal hw).
I usually wait and shop around until I find what I need... after all, if I need to use a laptop for content creation and occasional gaming, I need something reliable that will last me about 3 to 4 years at least.

[LSG501]

So basically 5600 or above and you get zen3 cores.

Now we just need to actually have stock available when it's released.... it's been hard enough getting a ryzen laptop with the current models and the current 'supply constraints' from the pandemic have made every other release 'this year' pretty much a paper launch for most people.

[scaryjim]

So basically 5600 or above and you get zen3 cores.

Ryzen 7 5700U is Zen 2. SO sadly it's not quite that straight-forward...

[bae85]

My zen 2 based laptop is awesome, for bottom end Zen 2 is more than good enough.

[CPGP]

The Zen 2 4000 series is already really great performance, especially for the power and heat, so I'm definitely interested in these. Especially if paired with the leaked 30 series Nvidia GPUs. (Although, to be fair, a mobile 6000 series AMD GPU could be killer too.)

If only more manufacturers actually customised their machines for AMD CPUs. This video from Hardware Unboxed shows what's possible when an OEM does just that :
https://youtu.be/6x8SAAk_J4c