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I couldn't recommend Samsung personally. The Note 3 was brilliant, but not perfect, a long time ago.
Since then they've gone downhill. Infuriating to use (Note 9, thing has a mind if it's own)
Still using my galaxy s8+ and it's never let me down. Will only use a Samsung
I usually like Samsung but not too keen on this model
Base S20 has a 1440p60 native screen, but can do 1080p120, s21 is 1080p120 native. Not sure that's better or worse.
Removal of the SD card slot is a more obvious downgrade. Plastic back on a phone that starts at £769 is a bit much. Exynos garbage means they're a nonstarter for me anyway
£35 for a stylus...
That's £35 for a branded piece of plastic that costs pennies (at most) to produce...
Bit like an Apple pencil?
You know it's basically a wacom stylus right (Samsung has shares/part owner of wacom), not one of those non pressure sensitive pens that cost pennies to produce..... not saying it couldn't be cheaper but it's not one of the dumb sticks that costs pennies.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob
As to the s21.. supposedly 200 cheaper... still stupidly expensive imo, but I'm one of the few that doesn't mind plastic being used instead of glass, glass is far more likely to break than plastic is.
Exynos should be much better this generation. We shall see. Interestingly, I have a Exynos S20+ (I was offered it at a pretty decent price or I'd have said no) and I'm surprised at how decent it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by edmundhonda
Interestingly, just over the past month or so (since the update) things which were instant are no longer instant and the touchscreen isn't being as responsive. And HELLO! New S21 series. To solve all my laggy problems. I do get tired of this stuff.
Removal of SD slot just whilst Google is removing free upload capacity and samsung is pushing people over to microsoft for cloud storage. I don't particularly want them to have control of all my data and I routinely back up my stuff to the SD card. It's about ensuring you use their services.
Oh and HEEELLLO! They remove the 3.5mm jack so you can't use decent headphones without an adaptor, which they stop including after one generation and a couple of generations later they remove the in-box USB-C headphones. I bet they have a lovely range to offer you. How long will USB-C last as a standard? We went from mini USB to micro USB to USB-C over a few years so pretty sure any decent USB-C headphones will be useless in a few years. So you have to buy new ones.
How delightful. Drinks all round.
I'd say "bottoms up" but that's the consumer presenting.
They have teardowns of them online, you can see its not just plastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob
I also have an S20+ and have noticed it's overall much more stable and just as quick after the last update, but my understanding is that the software usually drops off a bit before a new Samsung launch then a little after launch they'll update the previous gen to make those owners happy again.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiotExynos should be much better this generation. We shall see. Interestingly, I have a Exynos S20+ (I was offered it at a pretty decent price or I'd have said no) and I'm surprised at how decent it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by edmundhonda
Interestingly, just over the past month or so (since the update) things which were instant are no longer instant and the touchscreen isn't being as responsive. And HELLO! New S21 series. To solve all my laggy problems. I do get tired of this stuff.
Removal of SD slot just whilst Google is removing free upload capacity and samsung is pushing people over to microsoft for cloud storage. I don't particularly want them to have control of all my data and I routinely back up my stuff to the SD card. It's about ensuring you use their services.
Oh and HEEELLLO! They remove the 3.5mm jack so you can't use decent headphones without an adaptor, which they stop including after one generation and a couple of generations later they remove the in-box USB-C headphones. I bet they have a lovely range to offer you. How long will USB-C last as a standard? We went from mini USB to micro USB to USB-C over a few years so pretty sure any decent USB-C headphones will be useless in a few years. So you have to buy new ones.
How delightful. Drinks all round.
I'd say "bottoms up" but that's the consumer presenting.
Agreed about the SD slot.
The removal of the 3.5mm slot is more about pushing people towards bluetooth headphones rather than towards USB-C, evidenced by Samsung bundling their wireless buds for free with both the S20 and S21 series at launch.
it may sound irrelevent ....but i wish this phone had headphone jack
That's interesting. Mine is definitely less responsive and I'm now getting repeated notifications asking me to enable offline phone location. It's something I do not want and you can't disable it or notifications. They have also made multitasking far worse and pop out windows are no longer scaling to a useable size. It feels like they have designed it to work more with their large screen / fold devices, so they are probably combining the projects to streamline development. Regardless, it has ruined two functions I use routinely and the nagging, repeating notifications asking me to enable a tracking function are infuriating.Quote:
Originally Posted by HW90I also have an S20+ and have noticed it's overall much more stable and just as quick after the last update, but my understanding is that the software usually drops off a bit before a new Samsung launch then a little after launch they'll update the previous gen to make those owners happy again.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiotExynos should be much better this generation. We shall see. Interestingly, I have a Exynos S20+ (I was offered it at a pretty decent price or I'd have said no) and I'm surprised at how decent it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by edmundhonda
Interestingly, just over the past month or so (since the update) things which were instant are no longer instant and the touchscreen isn't being as responsive. And HELLO! New S21 series. To solve all my laggy problems. I do get tired of this stuff.
Removal of SD slot just whilst Google is removing free upload capacity and samsung is pushing people over to microsoft for cloud storage. I don't particularly want them to have control of all my data and I routinely back up my stuff to the SD card. It's about ensuring you use their services.
Oh and HEEELLLO! They remove the 3.5mm jack so you can't use decent headphones without an adaptor, which they stop including after one generation and a couple of generations later they remove the in-box USB-C headphones. I bet they have a lovely range to offer you. How long will USB-C last as a standard? We went from mini USB to micro USB to USB-C over a few years so pretty sure any decent USB-C headphones will be useless in a few years. So you have to buy new ones.
How delightful. Drinks all round.
I'd say "bottoms up" but that's the consumer presenting.
Agreed about the SD slot.
The removal of the 3.5mm slot is more about pushing people towards bluetooth headphones rather than towards USB-C, evidenced by Samsung bundling their wireless buds for free with both the S20 and S21 series at launch.
Samsung have given solutions which do not resolve the problems.
Have you tried to redeem the bluetooth headset offer? They do not make it easy at all. No information was given with my phone, contract, or was on Samsung's website. I could only find the redeeming website due to an obscure forum post which listed it. Forum posts showed this was not just me. Whilst I do use Bluetooth headphones a lot, they are giving them away in a limited fashion in my experience. Additionally, I'd not be using those bluetooth headphones anywhere near as much if they included wired ones and / or a 3.5mm jack. I'm forced to use them, so I use them a lot. And if I lose one (easily done) I have to pay muchos to replace them. They aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
I'd much rather they ask when you buy the phone whether you need a charger, headphones, etc, with the default being not to supply.
120hz display and a bigger battery with more efficient battery life with new chips are the main things that would get me to upgrade. The battery and soc part are essential, if your phone isn't that big and thus has a smaller battery, you're going to regret that decision once it quickly declines within a year. If the exynos chips are like their previous ones, it'll almost be like you're on the previous snapdragon generation in performance terms.
Currently got a S20 that I dropped and smashed the screen on, Samsung offering £265 trade in, not sure whether its worth repairing or pay the extra (£270) and jump to the S21?
I'm still happy with my Galaxy S9+ and don't see that there'd be much benefit in upgrading yet. I'm a little wary of not having an iris scanner as I find it way more reliable than a fingerprint sensor.
Feels very much a flat release this time around - nothing particularly new and exciting, more of a spec bump and minor evolution...very similar design, with a change some will love and some will hate, but that's about it really.
Similar story for Apple et al this year - nothing particularly exciting to show off. I'm pretty sure Samsung *could* have gone for an exciting release and finally fixed the notch issue - but they are likely waiting for the Z Fold 3 or maybe even the 2022 phones I guess to keep the premium features to their new top end phone range.
Ive got a S10 Plus with a Dual Sim which I find invaluable!
Looking to upgrade now but I cant tell if the new S21 Ultra has Dual Sim or not.
Some reviewers say yes it does, some say it doesnt.
I know you have to buy direct from Samsung for this model - the Phone companies wont stock it as they dont want you having a competing carrier alongside.
Dont suppose anyone knows for sure if its Dual Sim??
Argos say it has dual sim : https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9189829
So do Samsung UK : https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-s21-5g/
Samsung site says Nano + eSim, so it's only one physical simcard slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by avi8tor
No thats not correct, from what I understand you can use 2 x nano sims or eSims
Vodafone etc as well as most major reviews list it as Dual Sim(Nano Sim). I believe there is an option for eSims however you should be able to use 2 x nano sims
Thanks everyone that replied - either physically sim slots or an eSim + 1 physical works!
I think the current phone format is reaching the pinnacle of what can be done with it and therefore revolution gives way to evolution at huge cost. The only really good thing for me about these is the variable refresh rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spud1
I suspec you're right and the folds are going to be the new high end (rather than extreme enthusiast only stuff). They are just getting them ready on early adopters and possibly doing things like notch removal on those models, leaving the "candy bar" style phones to stagnate, much as happened with older keypad phones.
I am currently using s9 and it is running well.