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    Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Bug can be triggered by user simply opening a folder with specially crafted shortcut.
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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Lovely.

    And this vulnerability has existed since build 1803? 2018!
    Last edited by g8ina; 25-01-2021 at 09:58 PM. Reason: swearing

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    It's mad. And MS trying to mitigate it saying "social engineering would be required" is just farcical. Most attacks require some form of human failure. It's almost a prerequisite of hacking that you'll have to socially engineer part of it. That is absolutely no mitigation and it also wouldn't be difficult to get lots of people in an office to do this - I can think of a few ways. Cybersecurity needs to work in the presence of the flawed human.

    Just a note of caution, Admin here aren't fond of swearing, even with the "*"s in there. I've been slapped before about that.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Another Microsoft OS.... another bug is born....
    β€œHe who controls the spice controls the universe.”
    ― Frank Herbert, Dune

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by souper View Post
    Another Microsoft OS.... another bug is born....
    Everything has bugs. It's dealing with them that really matters. How long has this been around? I wonder how many payloads it is now a part of. In the seedy world of corporate espionage / competition, corrupting a few choice hard drives could make the difference between you and them releasing a product first.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by souper View Post
    Another Microsoft OS.... another bug is born....
    I once wrote an "Hello World" that was mostly bug free.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    I Swear the windows 10 team hasn't got a clue.
    Seen photos of the windows team going work or meetings using apple products and just that tells me volumes.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    it also wouldn't be difficult to get lots of people in an office to do this - I can think of a few ways.
    I really wouldn't be that hard to create merry mischief with this. I'm not sure posting examples is a great idea, especially if Microsoft hasn't patched out the flaw.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    I really wouldn't be that hard to create merry mischief with this. I'm not sure posting examples is a great idea, especially if Microsoft hasn't patched out the flaw.
    Challenge accepted.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    Challenge accepted.
    No matter how hard i tried I've not been able to break my VM with this, worst i get is the triggering of chkdsk.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    No matter how hard i tried I've not been able to break my VM with this, worst i get is the triggering of chkdsk.
    I was going to play with it on mine and then saw something about it not working on VMs. Or maybe it's not the big deal people make out.

    EDIT - sod this. I'm downloading windows 95. It won't have this problem and these days is impervious to viruses.
    EDIT EDIT

    EDIT config.sys

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    Will blu' ray work now?
    Last edited by philehidiot; 18-01-2021 at 07:50 PM.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    No matter how hard i tried I've not been able to break my VM with this, worst i get is the triggering of chkdsk.
    From what I'm reading here, it doesn't sound that system threatening.

    Not like the Windows bugs of old like the Ping of Death. I dunno, perhaps Microsoft can't even write proper bugs any more

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    From what I'm reading here, it doesn't sound that system threatening.

    Not like the Windows bugs of old like the Ping of Death. I dunno, perhaps Microsoft can't even write proper bugs any more
    Microsoft writes the best bugs. No one writes better bugs. I can't think of anyone who can write better bugs. If you say that they don't do the best bugs, you're fake news.

    Make bugs great again.

    P.S. I am actually now running Windows 95. What is seriously disturbing is I just fell back into the keyboard shortcuts and it works so much easier than Windows 10....

    That's sad.


    EDIT - windows 95 struggles with 4K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    EDIT - windows 95 struggles with 4K.
    I bet it does a mean 640 x 480 though.

    Edit: or was it 640 x 360? I don't actually remember now...

    Edit Edit: Nope, 640 x 480
    Last edited by Iota; 18-01-2021 at 09:49 PM.

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    Microsoft writes the best bugs. No one writes better bugs. I can't think of anyone who can write better bugs. If you say that they don't do the best bugs, you're fake news.

    Make bugs great again.

    P.S. I am actually now running Windows 95. What is seriously disturbing is I just fell back into the keyboard shortcuts and it works so much easier than Windows 10....

    That's sad.


    EDIT - windows 95 struggles with 4K.
    Brings back memories doesn't it.........I recently spent many hours getting 98SE installed and working well on an old spare PC, just for the hell of it really. I'd forgotten that, back then, Windows didn't even have TCP/IP enabled for network adapters by default.

    After sorting that out though, I can get to Google in IE5, although not many other sites as most obviously require https these days (and IE5 is just a little behind the curve when it comes to SSL/TLS support).

    Until I installed it, I'd forgotten about the funny sound themes that came with 95/98, where pretty much every mouse click results in an audio sample being played. The novelty wears off quite quickly, if I'm honest. And I spent a while trying to work out why I couldn't find any USB 2.0 drivers, before realising USB was just USB in 1998, at a whopping 12.5Mbps

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    Re: Microsoft working on fix for nasty NTFS corruption bug

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy75 View Post
    Brings back memories doesn't it.........I recently spent many hours getting 98SE installed and working well on an old spare PC, just for the hell of it really. I'd forgotten that, back then, Windows didn't even have TCP/IP enabled for network adapters by default.

    After sorting that out though, I can get to Google in IE5, although not many other sites as most obviously require https these days (and IE5 is just a little behind the curve when it comes to SSL/TLS support).

    Until I installed it, I'd forgotten about the funny sound themes that came with 95/98, where pretty much every mouse click results in an audio sample being played. The novelty wears off quite quickly, if I'm honest. And I spent a while trying to work out why I couldn't find any USB 2.0 drivers, before realising USB was just USB in 1998, at a whopping 12.5Mbps
    I keep meaning to try that. Was that on bare metal, and how old is the PC? People keep talking about PC backwards compatibility, but I have to wonder if my and old WIndows 3.1 install would still run on a modern PC.

    Windows 95 should be pretty nippy though, given modern CPUs have more L3 cache than PCs back there had main system ram

    Would have thought there would be third party USB 2.0 drivers though, people were running 95/98/Me for years. Perhaps only drivers for the right old hardware though.

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