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    MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    Cores, clocks, cache and TDPs of 11th gen Core i5, i7 and i9 'K' models are revealed.
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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    125W TDP... is that per core?

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    "It appears to have 16GB L3 cache, supports DDR4-3200 memory" Typo here, i think it should be 16MB L3 cache.

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    "Rocket Lake-S actually goes backwards in terms of core count," but this is mainly due to the new Xe graphics taking up die space..."

    That's just Intel spinning a story, it really doesn't seem to be due to the "massive Xe die", it is observably because they've hit the absolute limit of what they can do and you could argue because they tried to fit more onto the die, they had to sacrifice but then why didn't they just make a bigger die like they did in previous generations?

    Or just not had as large an iGPU in the first place, they even are selling dies without the iGPU so why did they not just do an AMD and decided that the main desktop stack are definitively going to be used with a dGPU?

    The fact that every sku has a 125w TDP is quite telling how hot these are going to be, dropping two cores and making a backward step for an iGPU is just dumb as a box of frogs to then say "oh yeah, it was because of the iGPU".

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    The TDP is (supposedly) derived from the base clock numbers, so the 11900k is going to be slightly worse in terms of ghz/w compared to the 10700k. I think they promised 'double digit' IPC improvements, will be very amusing if that's mostly offset by lower clocks.

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    The fact that every sku has a 125w TDP is quite telling how hot these are going to be, dropping two cores and making a backward step for an iGPU is just dumb as a box of frogs to then say "oh yeah, it was because of the iGPU".
    Going on what's being reported (buckets of salt required) a 360 AIO struggles to keep an i9-11900KF under 100°C so you're probably spot on in assuming they reduced the core count because of temperatures.

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    Lol I'm also very curious to see if these will exceed the 250w the 10th gen was hitting. Very impressive performance on the old node but definitely at a cost

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    The fact that every sku has a 125w TDP is quite telling how hot these are going to be, dropping two cores and making a backward step for an iGPU is just dumb as a box of frogs to then say "oh yeah, it was because of the iGPU".
    Going on what's being reported (buckets of salt required) a 360 AIO struggles to keep an i9-11900KF under 100°C so you're probably spot on in assuming they reduced the core count because of temperatures.
    that's assuming the AIO isn't faulty, like the Reddit example with the 9900k
    https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/9x7z2u/i99900k_running_100c_on_stock_settings_with_aio/

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    Quote Originally Posted by will19565 View Post
    that's assuming the AIO isn't faulty, like the Reddit example with the 9900k
    https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/co...ings_with_aio/
    I would personally assume a misconfigured bios / wrong connection to the motherboard, or failing that a faulty AIO. Looking at it this way, I rarely see above 60ºC with a 240 AIO on a 9900KF stock speeds and voltages during a burn in test. May also be the part about it being an engineering sample?

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    It was AVX3 which caused the high load. You could also stress a decent AIO on 10th gen doing avx3 workloads but thry were manageable. This seems like its still trying to go harder and all it's doing is getting hotter and drawing more power

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    Quote Originally Posted by zephyrv View Post
    Lol I'm also very curious to see if these will exceed the 250w the 10th gen was hitting. Very impressive performance on the old node but definitely at a cost
    ... and then theres AMD

    I think i'll skip the intel and I'm kind'a an intel fanboy.

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    Re: MSI sourced slide outlines top tier Rocket Lake-S CPU specs

    Do they come with a cpu cooler the size of an air conditioning unit?

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