Hackers attempt to poison Florida city's water supply

[Gentle Viking]

My logic to deal with these things are too much for most people, so i am not going to say, but it is harsh,,,,,, very harsh

And dont misunderstand that icon, thats child's play compared to what i would have done to hackers.

[ik9000]

My logic to deal with these things are too much for most people, so i am not going to say, but it is harsh,,,,,, very harsh

And dont misunderstand that icon, thats child's play compared to what i would have done to hackers.

Is that gentle in your name ironic then?

[Friesiansam]

Trump trying to force people to drink bleach?

[ik9000]

Or someone trying to get him to perhaps given his current residence. Not a very targeted approach given the collateral potential if that was their aim. I'd assume it's just coincidence that it's the same state where he's now living. Unless of course the IP traces to a certain country or countries...

[fend_oblivion]

Evil... why are people so evil?

[lumireleon]

THE problem is not the internet or Teamviewer but the IT department is not part of management (may look like part but very partially) and it goes way up the Ministry food chain. Computer science is usually not part of board of management what the IT office receives is some decisions (authoritative) made by the so-called 'big boys of the company' who think a server is same to a xbox console. (ELON explicitly said the tech industry is ruined by MBA managers). MBAs and the like study shallow maths in-fact 8 grade maths and I am not sorry to say it. TECH is under threat and we need to PROTEST.

[cheesemp]

THE problem is not the internet or Teamviewer but the IT department is not part of management (may look like part but very partially) and it goes way up the Ministry food chain. Computer science is usually not part of board of management what the IT office receives is some decisions (authoritative) made by the so-called 'big boys of the company' who think a server is same to a xbox console. (ELON explicitly said the tech industry is ruined by MBA managers). MBAs and the like study shallow maths in-fact 8 grade maths and I am not sorry to say it. TECH is under threat and we need to PROTEST.

There is a great truth here but I don't see the need to protest. The issue is IT is seen as a cost by managers and therefore something to be driven down at every opportunity. I think it really should be seen as a benefit as good IT makes everything more efficient and reliable. I think things are changing in some board rooms but yes managers need far more knowledge about IT. My wife's admin role could probably be replaced with some very light automation but none of her managers has a clue (They are definitely NOT MBA trained). I keep threatening to write a few Excel/Word macro's so she can login and do the days work in 30 minutes then put her feet up!

[ik9000]

There is a great truth here but I don't see the need to protest. The issue is IT is seen as a cost by managers and therefore something to be driven down at every opportunity. I think it really should be seen as a benefit as good IT makes everything more efficient and reliable. I think things are changing in some board rooms but yes managers need far more knowledge about IT. My wife's admin role could probably be replaced with some very light automation but none of her managers has a clue (They are definitely NOT MBA trained). I keep threatening to write a few Excel/Word macro's so she can login and do the days work in 30 minutes then put her feet up!

You're right but careful it's a double edged sword. I wrote some scripts to automate stuff at my work and before you know it your workload increases to compensate, or person XYZ disappear due to decline in workload etc... then you had the old lot who were suspicious of anything they couldn't understand/write themselves trying to avoid using it etc.

[philehidiot]

So the change didn't actually cause a release into potable supply? So there must be some kind of measure which alerts to a change in chemical state outside of certain parameters. If it were me, this would be an offline, last line of defence which just detected and shut off valves automatically.

The comment about making it all offline, aside from the practicality of such things, you end up with a gaping hole in security. In this industry, cyber and physical are totally separate and each one depends on the other doing their job. This was demonstrated in a substation which was physically broken into due to poor locks and no alarm. The RJ45 was there to plug in a laptop and this gave total access to the infrastructure as there was an old, unpatched OS running. The cyber guys didn't think it was part of the threat model as it was offline and couldn't be accessed.

As for whether this was social engineering or through teamviewer, what this means is working from home is (and always has been) a huge target. Equipment that would normally be secured is in homes. That is just asking for trouble. You can't just walk down the corridor or demand an order in writing, delivered in person at home.

[Blue000]

I wonder if whoever did this really knew what they where doing? Like that it would be poisonous to people and could lead to death or if they were just messing with the numbers to see what was going on?