Read more.Large sample of MindFactory sellers shows no outlier AMD and Intel RMA rates.
Read more.Large sample of MindFactory sellers shows no outlier AMD and Intel RMA rates.
Let the mud slinging begin. I guess from these “leaks” that the new intel chips about to be launched aren’t as good as first indicated. But that may be the cynic in me talking
Considering it was just a small time PC builder moaning where larger ones are not, I would suggest the issue is PEBKAC. OEM vendors are the first to moan when their RMA rates are a little higher, they were happy to discuss with Turing and RDNA1 and considering how long these CPUs have been out, there would have been far more than one small timer having a pop.
Smells like a FUD piece, frankly.
Had an issue just over a year ago with a new 3600X, it wouldn't sit in the socket of the mobo properly and as such the pins weren't making correct contact so depending on the mounting pressure you could get on it different slots on the board would or wouldn't work.
Can't say if it was the CPU or the Motherboard at fault but RMA'd both and got replacements next day and the replacements were fine.
These things happen, I think as long as there is no systemic issue (like 10% of products not working) that it's more about the retailer experience when something does go wrong and that is out of control of the chip makers.
Under a 360 AIO here, and it just boosts higher and higher
https://forums.hexus.net/cpus/423576...teresting.html
Society's to blame,
Or possibly Atari.
No manufactured item can be guaranteed to be 100% all of the time in production or user due to improper use thats why we have RMA's ,legal guarantee's and trading standards. No company worth its salt wants to earn a bad reputation on it's products and will do its best to recify any defects and not try to fudge or cover them ( Sorry NZXT and Volkswagon. lol ). You could buy 2 new cars off the production line consecutively and one turns out brilliantly , the other a dog , it happens. Any company producing electronic components will be no different wether it be chips , IC's, capacitors , PCB's etc. In the past I've had defective processors from Intel ,AMD ,Cyrix and IDM but only on a very,very rare occasion. On the whole considering the volumes involved and the intricate , minute fabrication of electronics now is mindblowing so a few defective units along the line has to be expected. Slating AMD like that sounds like another
desperate dig from from the Intel camp and wouldn't suprise me in the least. As shown above both AMD and Intel get a few rogue chips thatget through whatever quality controls they use , nothing in this world is perfect and defects sometimes lead to improvements.
Celeron-D burnt my motherboard. Talk about the horrors of the D era. The precise evaluation should be Intel vs AMD motherboards.
In all honesty with the way the AMD cpu is designed around chiplets and the idea is to 'only use good chiplets' then I can't see them having an excessively high failure or rma rate without some other issue causing it (packaging, delivery drivers playing football with our parcels, motherboard bios etc).
Are there failures, yes, nothing is 100% perfect. Could one company have a higher percentage than others, yes, you can get faulty 'batches' but there's a real lack of evidence backing any of this up to be overly worried. Besides as I've always said when asked, it's not something being faulty when you buy it that's the issue, it's how it's dealt with that can make it an issue (basically if it's faulty and fixed easily then it's fine, if it's a pain to get fixed it's not).
Got to laugh at the ex Intel employee saying 'AMD bad' but not giving any proof....
I guess from these “leaks” that the new intel chips about to be launched aren’t as good as first indicated. But that may be the cynic in me talking
I wonder how much the original poster was paid by Intel for their dirty tweet? Intel aren't up to their old dirty tactics again, are they? Shock, horror!
"Let the mud slinging begin. I guess from these “leaks” that the new intel chips about to be launched aren’t as good as first indicated. But that may be the cynic in me talking"
Posted by MonkFish and then jurenjef8. Bot or someone that likes to copy+paste?
Someone on Guru3D posited that 5800X's high temps are due to a defective soldering process, but I think it's just because it has the same thermal limits as the 5900X while having half the area (i.e. one chiplet instead of two, therefore high thermal density). A slight undervolt might fix the issue.
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