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Do people actually use TB? I thought it was a bit like FireWire in that they kept it as an exclusive Apple thing for so long that the world simply moved on.
Thunderbolt on desktop is simply a waste but what we should hear is AMD Ryzen laptop with thunderbolt.
i thought it could help with external gpu and dock stations etc. in theory you can run your hub and external screens through it too. IIRC you want 20Gbps or more for 4k.
Problem isn't so much about if people would use it or not it's more about support, thunderbolt support/implementation on windows is pretty poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky34
I'd rather see better networking ports as I'm moving more towards network storage than external drives but I can see the benefit of thunderbolt for high speed transfers.
I did actually make use of firewire 400 when it was around, it was actually faster to 'network' my pc and laptop using it than the network ports lol
Until a couple of years ago my music pc still used a firewire audio interfaceQuote:
Originally Posted by LSG501Problem isn't so much about if people would use it or not it's more about support, thunderbolt support/implementation on windows is pretty poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky34
I'd rather see better networking ports as I'm moving more towards network storage than external drives but I can see the benefit of thunderbolt for high speed transfers.
I did actually make use of firewire 400 when it was around, it was actually faster to 'network' my pc and laptop using it than the network ports lol
Blimey! To think that people made a HUGE fuss about the SP6/SP7/Sp7+ NOT having full TB.
TB3 offered 40Gbps already, which TB4 does not improve upon. I think it offers duplex improvements though, and it supports 2 metre passive cables - which can only really be truly appreciated by those of us who got rinsed for £50 for a 2m active cable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ik9000
Thunderbolt is one of things that would NOT influence my choice in a motherboard, same can be said for usb type c too.
I don't own any devices that use them so it's like why would I need it ?
Basic USB C doesn't add a huge amount to cost, and if you don't have any devices yet I'm sure you will before too long. You can plug those in with an A to C cable, but then I find myself poking around the back of the PC trying to work out which ports are 480Mbps, 5Gbps or 10Gbps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubarb
Thunderbolt OTOH is a feature I have come to despise. Great for laptop docking when it works, but so often for me it just didn't. I stopped using a laptop at work largely because of docking problems. The old docking connectors were just so much better.
The pair of 2.5GbE ports seems a really odd choice. Couldn't they have put in a single 5GbE port for less? Or frankly at this price level 10GbE.
That is why it's on a niche "creator" motherboard and not a standard feature. Clearly this is not aimed at you. I'd guess market research showed there's enough people who want this to risk bringing a product to market. It's not for me either. And as above for USB-C. You may not need or want it now, but the odds are you'll come across at least one situation where you're glad you have it in the next few years. Given CPU upgrade cycles are seeming to get longer and longer, future proofing your motherboard in this way is very sensible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubarb
All of the points you have raised have been made about USB, PCI-e, PCI, etc in the past. New standards start off small and inertia takes its time. But you can see the level of buy-in to USB-C already and I'm buying my USB sticks with dual compatibility now.
I do wonder if Intel poisoned perception of TB a bit by hanging on to the painfully expensive paid licensing for too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
Well that killed off Firewire, and Firewire was good. To extract stupidly high licence fees from something that wasn't even well designed was pretty stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spreadie
As said it's a creator board and many of the things present are overkill for your average person...
I've had thunderbolt available for years. Never used it. I did spend money on... something(?) for it but never used the thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spreadie
My last two laptops have had TB3 and I used one with an eGPU. I only use it on my current laptop for the TB3 dock, but I have a few USB-C and TB3 devices. I don't mind it and I like the speed, but I'm not a huge fan of the type C connector - that could've been a better design.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
This board is meant for creative who know the benefits of Thunderbolt and use it. It is not for gamers so the question of eGPU is irrelevant especially because this is a desktop board. Audio interfaces, and video capture and playback devices that utilise it offer the best performance.
Thunderbolt has great support now on both Windows and Mac OS and although I have no experience with Linux and Chrome OS but I'm made to understand that it is supported at kernel level as well.
Thunderbolt 4 certification actually makes the implementation pretty standard for peace of mind.
I also bought a K series chip and didn't overclock it. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by kimgitz
I can get that with laptops you can find Thunderbolt useful (though just the basics of getting Windows to drive a couple of external monitors drove me up the wall), in a desktop like this you can just plug in PCIe cards to generate and capture whatever signals you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by kimgitz
Linux support for Thunderbolt seemed pretty poor for me, way worse than Windows. I'm on the broadcast engineering side rather than creative, but my desktop at work has a PCIe card with four SDI connectors on it that can do caprure or playback, and a Mellanox 25GbE card to do uncompressed video over ethernet given that seems to be the way things are going. Those work under Linux just fine.
it helps with linking machines and still having network i guess. Is that a common requirement?Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Those PCIe cards can only be used with one machine realistically unless you are willing to be uninstalling and installing PCIe cards regularly. With a Thunderbolt device one simply unplugs the cable and plugs it into another computer, no screwdrivers needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnixI can get that with laptops you can find Thunderbolt useful (though just the basics of getting Windows to drive a couple of external monitors drove me up the wall), in a desktop like this you can just plug in PCIe cards to generate and capture whatever signals you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by kimgitz
Linux support for Thunderbolt seemed pretty poor for me, way worse than Windows. I'm on the broadcast engineering side rather than creative, but my desktop at work has a PCIe card with four SDI connectors on it that can do caprure or playback, and a Mellanox 25GbE card to do uncompressed video over ethernet given that seems to be the way things are going. Those work under Linux just fine.
Linux support is now much better not perfect but very much useable.
Dual NICs are mostly used for redundancy. A 2.5GbE MultiPort Switch is more affordable and easily available than for 5GbE or 10GbE.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix