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    GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Multiple sources point to ETH throttling tech in all future GeForce RTX 30 graphics cards.
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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    I think Nvidia already announced it would apply to future cards, so not much of a revelation there. However, new Ti cards all based on GA102 and with only 12GB VRAM is interesting, if very disappointing.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Part of me suspects this will become a hardware feature in the next generation or two.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    Part of me suspects this will become a hardware feature in the next generation or two.
    Problem is, how can you differentiate ETH hashing from any other gCompute feature like F@H etc.?
    Or even some future complex shader program in a game?
    I'm sure Nvidia would love for anyone who needs compute to buy a more expensive card, whereas even if CUDA is crippled to half-rate people teaching themselves about it should still be able to run their stuff, albeit slowly.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    While I understand WHY they are doing this, I disagree with it entirely, if you buy a card you should be able to do what you want with it..

    The bit I'm more interested in, is will these new cards come in FE models or will they all be AIB, chances are by the time I can actually get a 3080FE the Ti might be out which could be a tastier option..

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    Part of me suspects this will become a hardware feature in the next generation or two.
    Problem is, how can you differentiate ETH hashing from any other gCompute feature like F@H etc.?
    Or even some future complex shader program in a game?
    I'm sure Nvidia would love for anyone who needs compute to buy a more expensive card, whereas even if CUDA is crippled to half-rate people teaching themselves about it should still be able to run their stuff, albeit slowly.
    ETH is easy to detect - the algorithm used needs at least 4gb for starters to run well which is why it's used on gpu's rather than asics. Unless they rewrite ETH it's pretty much slam dunk for miners - and they have a card for miners if you want to mine...
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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig View Post
    While I understand WHY they are doing this, I disagree with it entirely, if you buy a card you should be able to do what you want with it..
    You can do what you want with it. You just need to write your own signed BIOS and modify the drivers if you want full rate ETH hashing. It's no different than games having paid DLC or operating systems limiting their hardware support.
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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    You can do what you want with it. You just need to write your own signed BIOS and modify the drivers if you want full rate ETH hashing. It's no different than games having paid DLC or operating systems limiting their hardware support.
    Sure, because that's simple and easy

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Problem is, how can you differentiate ETH hashing from any other gCompute feature like F@H etc.?
    Or even some future complex shader program in a game?
    I'm sure Nvidia would love for anyone who needs compute to buy a more expensive card, whereas even if CUDA is crippled to half-rate people teaching themselves about it should still be able to run their stuff, albeit slowly.
    From a video i watched it seems to reduce hash rates over time so short stints probably wouldn't be effected to much, IDK how something like F@H would be effected as IDK how different that is from crypto mining.

    EDIT: Found it, it was an article on VideoCardz.com.
    Last edited by Corky34; 05-03-2021 at 12:41 PM.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    You can do what you want with it. You just need to write your own signed BIOS and modify the drivers if you want full rate ETH hashing. It's no different than games having paid DLC or operating systems limiting their hardware support.
    Just don't use any of Nvidia's firmware or software as the EULA is quite strict about using consumer grade cards in a "data centre". That last term was not defined last I checked and so you have to wonder if a small business which works with fluid dynamics has a room, in a house, with server rack, cooling and multiple GPUs and storage systems - is it possible Nvidia with a grudge could call that a data centre?

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Whatever, it still won't be possible to buy one for anywhere near msrp, once they all get hoovered up by the scalpers.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV
    Trig;304]While I understand WHY they are doing this, I disagree with it entirely, if you buy a card you should be able to do what you want with it..

    The bit I'm more interested in, is will these new cards come in FE models or will they all be AIB, chances are by the time I can actually get a 3080FE the Ti might be out which could be a tastier option..
    The problem will be solved in time through more manufacturing capacity as we are currently in the midst of a semi conductor shortage due to a range of issues.

    This is why a number of powers are attempting to craft long terms plans for semiconductor fabrication facilities closer to home, as TSMC has over 50% of the worlds entire production.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kato-2 View Post
    The problem will be solved in time through more manufacturing capacity as we are currently in the midst of a semi conductor shortage due to a range of issues.
    As long as miners believe the cards are worth more in a rig than the purchase cost, there is an infinite market at stupidly high price. No amount of manufacturing capacity can outrun that.

    The mindset seems to be "If I pay another $100 I just have to mine another month to get my money back" with a certainty that they will get their money back.

    Also, after the last crash where Nvidia and AMD had cards on their hands that took ages to shift there probably isn't any real appetite to feed the miners again.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Thank you, we can then end up getting more affordable prices as well, I do get why the miners want these popular cards though from both Green and Red team, because of the easy sell value in general, if need to get out or cut losses.

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post

    Also, after the last crash where Nvidia and AMD had cards on their hands that took ages to shift there probably isn't any real appetite to feed the miners again.
    Nvidia alone shipped over $175 Million RTX cards straight to miners when they launched.
    AMD and Nvidia have both been selling straight to miners. They're in the business of making money.
    Given the countless things to mine aswell. Restricting just Etherium isn't going ot change much.

    https://wccftech.com/nvidia-allegedl...pus-to-miners/

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    Re: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to continue Nvidia's mining limiter strategy

    Sorry but 12GB memory is just pathetic on the high end of gpu's which may be used for more than just gaming.... now I understand not doing the full 24 of the 3090 but 12GB is hardly an upgrade over the 3080 (lets be honest the 3080 SHOULD have had 16GB), made even worse with AMD doing 16 min on the high end.

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