Speaking of HBM, the Zen3 EPYC launch had an interview over at AT and there's this titbit:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16548...t-norrod-milanWe see more and more interest in using high bandwidth memory, for an on-package solution. I think you will see SKU’s in the future from a variety of companies incorporating HBM, especially for AI. That will initially be fairly specialized to be to be candid, because HBM is extremely expensive. So for most the standard DDR memory, even DDR5 memory, means that HBM is going to be confined initially to applications that are incredibly memory latency sensitive, and then you know, it’ll be interesting to how it plays out over time.
Which implies that even for HPC it is too expensive. I guess HPC would need a lot more than 4GB or 8GB.
As for people turning their noses up at HBM, I though people were just weren't impressed with the 4GB of Fury.
And I guess AMD weren't impressed with allegedly loosing money on Fury and Vega.
Pity as AMD spent a lot of money developing HBM and all they have to show for it is the Wikipedia entries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_B...ry#Development
In fact, I think Nvidia have done better out of it despite not being involved with its development simply because they sell a lot more high-end compute cards where HBM really helps.