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    Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    It will use Foveros packaging tech and become a volume product in 2023.
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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    I love how every major media outlet is glossing over the fact that Intel have tactically used the "taped out" definition to masquerade the fact that last year they said expect 7nm products in 2022 and now it's 2023.

    Jesus christ.

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    Yeah. Like 10mn was supposed to be 'oven ready' in 2015.
    Meanwhile, the yet-to-be-released Rocket Lake is being manufactured on a 14mn process, and there was no mention of the money being spent on the price war currently being waged against AMD.
    At least some of their money is being spent on new fabs, rather than unproductive share buy-back.

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    Well I guess at least they now have a little bit more ambition than they had previously, it certainly looks like there is much more of a direction of travel for the business than the previous flip flopping.

    Maybe it's a case of Gelsinger should be renamed Gels Intel Together.

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    so when they hit 7nm.. then AMD is poking around with 5 and 3nm?

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    What I love more than anything is how everyone knows how much BS Intel spout now. Opinions lead to stereotypes and those are much harder to shake off.

    Intel knows that AMD are waiting for them and are playing cat and mouse, it's quite amusing how karma has come back to haunt them. As soon as Intel release anything, Zen 4 will suddenly appear!

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    Quote Originally Posted by QuorTek View Post
    so when they hit 7nm.. then AMD is poking around with 5 and 3nm?
    Too much focus on nm.

    There is quite a bit of difference between TSMC, Samsung and Intel process nodes.

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    3 years they are promising to deliver 7 nm process, but sells are not falling down, it seems not to be all that important for profit. Curios about AMDs respond!

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by QuorTek View Post
    so when they hit 7nm.. then AMD is poking around with 5 and 3nm?
    Too much focus on nm.

    There is quite a bit of difference between TSMC, Samsung and Intel process nodes.
    Maybe so, but it doesn't change the fact that intel have been largely stagnant while TSMC have moved full speed ahead. AMD particularly has been some nice improvements over time. I don't really have high expectations for intel any time soon. I do hope in time they can step things up.

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    Re: Intel 7nm Meteor Lake CPU tile design to be verified next quarter

    Quote Originally Posted by FRISH View Post
    Maybe so, but it doesn't change the fact that intel have been largely stagnant while TSMC have moved full speed ahead. AMD particularly has been some nice improvements over time. I don't really have high expectations for intel any time soon. I do hope in time they can step things up.
    I would agree. It sounds like Intel have had systemic failures in their basic engineering at the fabs. Those fundamental problems need fixing so they can get into a cadence of having something worth releasing even when things fail, because this stuff is hard so coping with failure has to be built in to their methodologies.

    The often heard mantra than Intel 10nm is equivalent to TSMC 7nm glosses over the difference that TSMC 7nm works. OFC if Intel delay 7nm further, then we might get enough working bits of 7nm back ported into 10nm that it starts producing decent parts and we get years of 10nm++++++ to look forward to.

    The raft of Intel security issues that seem born of pure sloppiness isn't inspiring in confidence either.

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