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    Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Insiders say Intel will update numbering convention to "match the industry standard."
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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Great, so when are they going to change their TDP measurements?

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    So we can look forward to 70 and 60nm products can we? Hmm I don't think so.

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    It will mean the Intel process nodes might get moved down a few numbers. For example Intel 14NM is actually closer to 10NM/12NM nodes from other companies in certain aspects,and their 10NM process node is closer to TSMC 7NM in certain aspects.


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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    If they made decent products that didn't single handedly cause global warming, then people wouldn't give two poops about their transistor density.

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    ,and their 10NM process node is closer to TSMC 7NM in certain aspects.
    Some aspects yes, but the "good yields" vs "barely usable" is probably the key metric here. That and Intel's 10nm sucking for desktop performance (to be fair, TSMC 10nm was mobile only as well, you can't win them all).

    But hey, the computer industry has always had a fair dose of carefully chosen benchmarks

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by ultrasbm View Post
    If they made decent products that didn't single handedly cause global warming, then people wouldn't give two poops about their transistor density.
    This genuinely made me laugh!

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    I'm pretty sure AMD tried this back in the day, where their products weren't as fast as the Intel ones, and Intel ripped into them for it, naming things based on their perceived performance rather than what they actually were....

    Ho hum...

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by bae85 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ultrasbm View Post
    If they made decent products that didn't single handedly cause global warming, then people wouldn't give two poops about their transistor density.
    This genuinely made me laugh!
    Hmm, this gives me an idea for my response to this press release:

    You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words.... how DARE you.

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Some aspects yes, but the "good yields" vs "barely usable" is probably the key metric here. That and Intel's 10nm sucking for desktop performance (to be fair, TSMC 10nm was mobile only as well, you can't win them all).

    But hey, the computer industry has always had a fair dose of carefully chosen benchmarks
    The problem here is Intel is having to make relatively large chips on 10NM - if they had a "glued" design like AMD has,it would most likely be useable. I am kind of surprised with Intel having access to EMIB,etc they haven't moved to chiplets yet.


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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Fishlets maybe , everything Intel does of late is fishy.

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The problem here is Intel is having to make relatively large chips on 10NM - if they had a "glued" design like AMD has,it would most likely be useable. I am kind of surprised with Intel having access to EMIB,etc they haven't moved to chiplets yet.
    Haven't they announced they're planning to do that, is it called foverous or something, not sure if that relates to desktop, mobile, or server though. I sort of lost interest in what Intel was doing a decade or so ago when they just kept churning out the same basic 'Core' design from 2006.

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Great, so when are they going to change their TDP measurements?
    Why would they do that when they can keep milking their fanboys?

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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Haven't they announced they're planning to do that, is it called foverous or something, not sure if that relates to desktop, mobile, or server though. I sort of lost interest in what Intel was doing a decade or so ago when they just kept churning out the same basic 'Core' design from 2006.
    Foveros tile is a 3d packaging form. Problem is with them still being kinda stuck on 14nm it doesn't help that much...
    Throwing transistors at an issue is a common way of doing it and Intel has continued that for at least a decade. But when you throw transistors at it on a poor node then packaging really doesn't mitigate the power draw and heat that ensues
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    Re: Intel considering nanometer numerals adjustment

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Haven't they announced they're planning to do that, is it called foverous or something, not sure if that relates to desktop, mobile, or server though. I sort of lost interest in what Intel was doing a decade or so ago when they just kept churning out the same basic 'Core' design from 2006.
    Wasn't the original core architecture a spin off from the pentium M line, or have I garbled that Baldric-fashion?

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