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    Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Graphics boss Raja Koduri hinted that the GPU was running "buttery smooth".
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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Between 3070 & 3080 level of performance will be pretty impressive for a new entrant into the gaming GPU market. As the news article says, more competition can't come soon enough!

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    How is it possible for AMD to protect from copying its innovations hosted in Koduri head?

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Amstrad View Post
    How is it possible for AMD to protect from copying its innovations hosted in Koduri head?
    Quite easy, if Raja has observably used AMD owned IP and Patents that he worked on while at AMD in Intel Xe then AMD can come after Intel for infringement. Just because they're in Rajas head as well in AMDs coffers does not mean he has the right to use them at Intel.

    Raja is the one that has to be careful that he doesn't "accidentally" use AMD designs in making Xe.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    How many +'s are intel going to need on their 14nm to make this

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Amstrad View Post
    How is it possible for AMD to protect from copying its innovations hosted in Koduri head?
    They have a comprehensive cross licence agreement, so probably not an issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJim View Post
    Between 3070 & 3080 level of performance will be pretty impressive for a new entrant into the gaming GPU market. As the news article says, more competition can't come soon enough!
    If the cards aren't actually out for nearly another year, will it still look so impressive? I can see this going the way of the RX480, which sounded pretty impressive in the leaks Nvidia had moved the goalposts by the time it came out.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShreddedWheat View Post
    How many +'s are intel going to need on their 14nm to make this
    They get TSMC to make it. I suspect Intel's fabs are still close to capacity, recovering from having to make bigger CPUs because people wouldn't accept a quad core i7 any more.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    I watched an Intel development tools webinar that showed this GPU explicitly will be supported by Intel's oneAPI accelerator libraries. Intel states it has had 15000 programmers working on oneAPI since 2019. It is a bit mind-boggling to imagine that kind of programming effort, aside from all the gaming support that is going into the Xe GPU effort.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by JayN View Post
    I watched an Intel development tools webinar that showed this GPU explicitly will be supported by Intel's oneAPI accelerator libraries. Intel states it has had 15000 programmers working on oneAPI since 2019. It is a bit mind-boggling to imagine that kind of programming effort, aside from all the gaming support that is going into the Xe GPU effort.
    As per usual, do you have a source for your claims? Although this comment is a lot more toned down compared to your previous comments.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    If the cards aren't actually out for nearly another year, will it still look so impressive? I can see this going the way of the RX480, which sounded pretty impressive in the leaks Nvidia had moved the goalposts by the time it came out.
    True, the history of tech products is littered with those that were anticipated to perform fantastically, but ultimately failed to live up to the hype. But if Intel's GPUs do manage such a level of performance straight off the bat - given where they're starting from - it will be quite an achievement. I'm pretty sure between 3070 & 3080 performance will still be considered better than 'entry level' in a year's time, and certainly at the moment, it's lower-end gpus that seem to be missing from the market. Well, released on the market anyway...it's pretty impossible to get any gpu at the moment!
    Last edited by MrJim; 02-06-2021 at 04:00 PM.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJim View Post
    True, the history of tech products is littered with those that were anticipated to perform fantastically, but ultimately failed to live up to the hype. But if Intel's GPUs do manage such a level of performance straight off the bat - given where they're starting from - it will be quite an achievement. I'm pretty sure between 3070 & 3080 performance will still be considered better than 'entry level' in a year's time, and certainly at the moment, it's lower-end gpus that seem to be missing from the market. Well, released on the market anyway...it's pretty impossible to get any gpu at the moment!
    We do have to be wary this is Raja whom is very well known for over-marketing his creations and then sandbagging on release.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JayN View Post
    I watched an Intel development tools webinar that showed this GPU explicitly will be supported by Intel's oneAPI accelerator libraries. Intel states it has had 15000 programmers working on oneAPI since 2019. It is a bit mind-boggling to imagine that kind of programming effort, aside from all the gaming support that is going into the Xe GPU effort.
    As per usual, do you have a source for your claims? Although this comment is a lot more toned down compared to your previous comments.
    looks like a misinterpretation (if I'm being positive) or a twisting (if I'm being cynical) of this
    https://newsroom.intel.com/articles/fact-sheet-oneapi/#gs.2d5wq5

    oneAPI represents Intel’s commitment to a “software-first” strategy that will define and lead programming for an increasingly AI-infused, heterogeneous and multi-architecture world.
    <SNIP>
    Intel has been deeply engaged with the developer ecosystem for more than 20 years. Intel has over 15,000 software engineers and 10,000 high-touch customer deployments in software. The company is also the number one contributor to the Linux kernel, modifies over half a million lines of code each year, optimizes for over 100 operating systems and has a vibrant 20-million-plus developer ecosystem. And that barely scratches the surface.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by will19565 View Post
    looks like a misinterpretation (if I'm being positive) or a twisting (if I'm being cynical) of this
    https://newsroom.intel.com/articles/...api/#gs.2d5wq5
    It's JayN, almost certainly a twisting of that snippet you've provided, he's pretty well known for dropping some very extreme Intel comments then slinking away when challenged.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    A sorely needed competitor.

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    Re: Intel shows off photo of Xe-HPG (DG2) GPU with 512 EUs

    Quote Originally Posted by Feck View Post
    A sorely needed competitor.
    yes, but if they don't do support for things older than win10 (as they have done with drivers for LAN, wifi, etc) then it's no good for me. I fear it might also prompt the others to say "well intel aren't so we're not anymore either". Some competition to help improve supply for consumers and lower prices is welcome however.

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