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    Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    Remember, AMD launches this tech in games starting from 22nd June.
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    Re: Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    As long as the results are ok and the consoles support it, it will be great.
    I guess it's too early to say how great it will be though
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    Re: Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    Smart move. Old nvidia are in the list, if it really works this way nvidia has a trouble.

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    Re: Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    That sounds really nice to be honest, it would be a boost to my 1080ti and 1080 that I am using still, also...

    unless prices on current 3080ti cards get on level or lower in price than what the 1080ti was, then I see no reason to buy their product, and probably get an AMD instead.

    Am fed up with insane prices.

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    Re: Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    Also I forgot to add, since it is now on consoles, that means that all games pretty much will support it, or start to support it = a big win to AMD for this round.

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    Re: Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by QuorTek View Post
    Also I forgot to add, since it is now on consoles, that means that all games pretty much will support it, or start to support it = a big win to AMD for this round.
    Certainly expect the 'Triple-A' titles to start offering FSR support in the near future. I read somewhere that AMD's approach was less reliant upon AI, therefore less 'training' of neural nets is involved.

    Here's hoping the developer input is such that smaller indie-developers are able to make great use of this technique as well.

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    Re: Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    It'll be interesting to see if this becomes popular in the console space. For a while now, consoles have used dynamic resolution scaling (DRS) to perk up performance, in a way I haven't really seen on Windows. Nvidia's DLSS and AMD's FFXSR features are (in horribly simplistic terms) "drop the res, then sharpen the upscale + tricks" to achieve a similar effect, usually with fixed resolution drops (defined by the performance level selected).

    If DRS techniques can be interwoven with FFXSR features on console (and ideally in Windows too) then this could be quite interesting. The main downside of DLSS is the base resolution drop it uses before AI-upscale. If this can be properly dynamic, with a target framerate window, then the resolution hit could be minimised in many cases, with DLSS/FFXSR picking up the slack with then DRS has to drop hard to keep action smooth.

    My guess is such tech will work its way into the popular engines (Unity, UE etc) and the results could be quite nice, esp as raytracing on console is such a performance hit. Indeed, it is probably the only way we'll see raytracing on console this gen, once the "not ports from the previous gen" games kick in.

    Interesting times.

    Edit, I'm also imagining how the framrate window could be used in conjunction with VRR facilities. In a way, it is a shame all this is necessary so soon in the generation, but conversely, it could make for some pretty spectacular stuff once devs sink their teeth in...

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    Re: Microsoft's consoles to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Irien View Post
    For a while now, consoles have used dynamic resolution scaling (DRS) to perk up performance, in a way I haven't really seen on Windows.
    It's present in several games on Windows - often the same ones that offer it on consoles.

    Nvidia's DLSS and AMD's FFXSR features are (in horribly simplistic terms) "drop the res, then sharpen the upscale + tricks" to achieve a similar effect, usually with fixed resolution drops (defined by the performance level selected).

    If DRS techniques can be interwoven with FFXSR features on console (and ideally in Windows too) then this could be quite interesting. The main downside of DLSS is the base resolution drop it uses before AI-upscale. If this can be properly dynamic, with a target framerate, then the resolution hit could be minimised in many cases, with DLSS/FFXSR picking up the slack with then DRS has to drop hard to keep action smooth.
    I think what you're saying is the DLSS disadvantage is the limited number of resolutions that can be upscaled from/to, vs a higher number of intermediary resolutions when more generic upscaling is used. And I agree - though DLSS could one day end up with enough from/to models that it would be useful to either oversample the target resolution or undersample and upscale through more generic methods, whatever the resolution.

    My guess is such tech will work its way into the popular engines (Unity, UE etc) and the results could be quite nice, esp as raytracing on console is such a performance hit. Indeed, it is probably the only way we'll see raytracing on console this gen, once the "not ports from the previous gen" games kick in.
    Agreed - though no doubt devs will learn some tricks that give very good results even considering the lack of ray tracing grunt.

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