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    TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Massive facility (size appox = 225 football fields) expected to be ready in 2026.
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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Why this seemingly universal journalistic obsession with relating sizes to football pitches, double decker busses or olympic swimming pools? As someone who would rather have my eyes poked out with red hot forks, than go to a football match, a hectare is a far more relatable measure than a fartball pitch.

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    Why this seemingly universal journalistic obsession with relating sizes to football pitches, double decker busses or olympic swimming pools? As someone who would rather have my eyes poked out with red hot forks, than go to a football match, a hectare is a far more relatable measure than a fartball pitch.
    Lucky for you they gave the hectare measure in the headline, you don't need to worry about what they put in for other people

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    Why this seemingly universal journalistic obsession with relating sizes to football pitches, double decker busses or olympic swimming pools? As someone who would rather have my eyes poked out with red hot forks, than go to a football match, a hectare is a far more relatable measure than a fartball pitch.
    Because some people struggle to relate numeric sizes so it's just a human readable equation of one thing to another.

    And the original article is from America...where Football is practically a religion so...

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    And the original article is from America...where Football is practically a religion so...
    Woah there! Are we now talking American Football pitches or UK football pitches?!?? And if UK ones, which ground? They're allowed to vary somewhat after-all

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    Those lo-res pics are awful.
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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    I have often wondered, why don't they or someone build a fab in the UK? We don't have earthquakes or other issues a lot of other countries do or does it come down to being able to get the staff for somewhere like that? Expertise, experience etc
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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Have to say I hate football pitches and swimming pools as a unit of area too.
    Even the non-sense imperial measurement system doesn't list either as a unit, so it's just journalists.
    While of course the rational metric values are easy to convert (90ha = 0.9km² = 900,000m²), it is strange that even the American's don't use an acre though.

    However, if then 225 f.p. is 90ha the 225 / 90 = 0.4 which is so close to the 0.4046ha to make me thing why bother to use football pitch in the first place?

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Woah there! Are we now talking American Football pitches or UK football pitches?!?? And if UK ones, which ground? They're allowed to vary somewhat after-all
    Ha ha, indeed!

    One thing that hacks me off, next time you go to TGI Fridays, ask for a pint of soda/fizzy/coke/whatever with no ice and see what you get. They have been consistently naughty and used an American Pint (473ml) which is quite a bit less than a British Pint (568ml)!

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Ha ha, indeed!

    One thing that hacks me off, next time you go to TGI Fridays, ask for a pint of soda/fizzy/coke/whatever with no ice and see what you get. They have been consistently naughty and used an American Pint (473ml) which is quite a bit less than a British Pint (568ml)!
    Sounds like trading standards should enforce something there.
    That's even worse than what most tile, carpet,flooring places try on when they quote things in sq/yd. There the assumption must be that a lot of people think, a yard is almost a meter and even those who realise it is around 0.9 probably don't realise that once squared this then becomes more like 0.8m², or if cubed it would be as low 0.75m³ which is far more than a rounding error.

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Sounds like trading standards should enforce something there.
    That's even worse than what most tile, carpet,flooring places try on when they quote things in sq/yd. There the assumption must be that a lot of people think, a yard is almost a meter and even those who realise it is around 0.9 probably don't realise that once squared this then becomes more like 0.8m², or if cubed it would be as low 0.75m³ which is far more than a rounding error.
    I have been tempted to go into TGIs at some point post lockdown and ask for my usual pint of <insert fizzy pop here> without ice (means they can't quantify the rest of the liquid being with ice) and see what they give me. Whip out my measuring jug, pour it in then ask the manager to qualify what pint measurement they're using. Because I've examined their menu and their Ts & Cs and there is exactly zero mention of the unit of measurement used.

    Then if they're giving me an American Pint I'll ask for the rest of my British Pint and if they argue, I'll ask them to dictate where they have stated it is one or t'other and provide relatively sound assumation as we're in the United Kingdom where the accepted measurement of "Pint" is of an Imperial British Pint and why am I being provided and charged for an American Pint.

    But then my wife looks me dead in the eyes and says "Don't be a c*** and enjoy your ribs".

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    I dont understand why they dont build this factory in the worlds best little country,,,,, which i am constantly told by many is Denmark.
    I can only assume the truth is not what we get told here.

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentle Viking View Post
    I dont understand why they dont build this factory in the worlds best little country,,,,, which i am constantly told by many is Denmark.
    I can only assume the truth is not what we get told here.
    At least Denmark knows the size of a footy pitch....

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Personally, I will not buy anything unless I know the football-pitchage of the factory where it was made. I also value such items in "Ronaldos". My PC is worth 2.3x10-69 Ronaldos and occupies 1.2x10-420 football pitches (UK).

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    I have often wondered, why don't they or someone build a fab in the UK? We don't have earthquakes or other issues a lot of other countries do or does it come down to being able to get the staff for somewhere like that? Expertise, experience etc
    We used to about 20 years ago

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    Re: TSMC secures 90 hectares for its 2nm chip factory in Hsinchu

    Or for us in USA 222 acres or so. BTW I don't even know what an american football pitch is (mixing sports here). Must be a UK thing. I take it to mean football field, but the pitch throws me. That's baseball.

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