Intel Thunderbolt 5 slide confirms 80Gbps USB Type-C on the way

[HEXUS]

In other Intel news, there are rumours that DG2 graphics cards will arrive at CES 2022.

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[Tabbykatze]

Just having a random poster with insider information on the wall while doing a photo op walkaround, ok sure

[lumireleon]

While we are still waiting for USB 4 to enter mainstream. Some aspects of Intel that is far ahead.

[AGTDenton]

Not really seeing the realities of TB4 yet. Lots of promise but no one seems to be delivering

[Tabbykatze]

Not really seeing the realities of TB4 yet. Lots of promise but no one seems to be delivering

TB4 is just TB3 with a more stringent validation procedure.

[Xlucine]

"What new communication standards have you got then?"
"Well, there's PAM for GDDR, PAM for PCIe, PAM for USB, PAM for SSDs, and SD cards hand delivered by lobster"

I like PAM3 more than the PAM3.5 in GDDR6X

[lumireleon]

But to be sincere TB is awesome. One of the main reason I would buy an Intel laptop even if the power curve is on fire.

[gagaga]

But to be sincere TB is awesome. One of the main reason I would buy an Intel laptop even if the power curve is on fire.

Yup. Had TB laptops (and a NUC) at home and work for the past 4 years. With the dock one cable gives power, 3 screens and all the stuff hanging off the USB hub. Oh, and 40Gbps networking when you need to shift big files between them.

[excalibur1814]

We have posters on our walls, for products. New and old. It's nothing crazy.

[kompukare]

Yup. Had TB laptops (and a NUC) at home and work for the past 4 years. With the dock one cable gives power, 3 screens and all the stuff hanging off the USB hub. Oh, and 40Gbps networking when you need to shift big files between them.

So what a dock normally gives you?

Just bought an Ultra Dock for my old used T540p business laptop for £10 used of ebay.

Dual DP, HDMI, DVI, VGA, tons of USB although it can only drive 2 digital screens at once, so I guess if I needed 3 screens I would have to attach one to the laptop's DP port.

About the only thing I see TB being useful would be an eGPU enclosure.

[Tabbykatze]

So what a dock normally gives you?

Just bought an Ultra Dock for my old used T540p business laptop for £10 used of ebay.

Dual DP, HDMI, DVI, VGA, tons of USB although it can only drive 2 digital screens at once, so I guess if I needed 3 screens I would have to attach one to the laptop's DP port.

About the only thing I see TB being useful would be an eGPU enclosure.

The area where TB docks massively outclass USB-C docks is not having to rely on DisplayLink technology which eats up your CPU.

That and I have had to move all our developers over to TB3 docks because a combination of DisplayLink, Windows and Nvidia/Intel drivers have ballsed up OpenGL through the dock. So our 4D view software and some haptic visualisation software no longer works when on a DisplayLink dock (well, caveat, the Kensington SD4700Ps fail entirely whereas the HP G5 USB-C docks will crash Premiere Pro with OpenGL errors).

As I understand it, TB3 had display passthrough from onboard GPU meaning you cut out the horrific DisplayLink middle man.

Until USB4 (which is basically TB3/4 with less stringent validation requirements), TB is superior to USB-C.

[lumireleon]

....And buying a budget laptop and getting the eGPU when workloads demand. Anyway TB might be a niche product for power users but having it is advantageous unfortunately +90% of laptop users don't care as-long as USB 3.0 and HDMI is at the side. Apple has been pushing the marketing department over the years but looks like they are tired just look at the M1 connection ecosystem.