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    Re: UK's largest chip fab bought by China-owned firm

    I think it's more to do with most companies misunderstanding kaizen and muda and then as a result then miss-implementing JIT as a rigid structure which must remove all inventory at all cost to benefit short-term profits. At no point reflecting and improving.

    As opposed to accurately identifying waste and zero-value add. Holding inventory suitable to maintaining production in case of supply disruption is not waste, dependant on the type of inventory.

    Stupid example, but say your production process requires sea water - You'd be insane to keep months of inventory of it. If your supply line is disrupted, it doesn't matter, arranging alternative is relatively simple.
    If, however, you require silicon which is only available from a couple of fabs in a small geographic area, holding inventory of that is not waste... Disruption to that supply line isn't solvable by flipping to a new supplier.

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    Re: UK's largest chip fab bought by China-owned firm

    Looks like its been referred for investigation :- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-57755149

    Hmm sometimes I get a paywall sometimes I don't, anyway it starts off by saying :

    Boris Johnson said on Wednesday that the UK government would probe the takeover of the UK’s largest silicon wafer manufacturer by a Chinese-backed company on national security grounds.

    Edit : Have updated with a BBC link
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    Re: UK's largest chip fab bought by China-owned firm

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    Looks like its been referred for investigation :- https://www.ft.com/content/9cd8e433-...a-527957a64c66

    Hmm sometimes I get a paywall sometimes I don't, anyway it starts off by saying :

    Boris Johnson said on Wednesday that the UK government would probe the takeover of the UK’s largest silicon wafer manufacturer by a Chinese-backed company on national security grounds.
    does the bit after the pay wall say "but then will roll over when his Chinese overlords remind him how much UK gov bonds they own, and how they will withdraw financial backing for HS2 and the Hinkley Point power station if he doesn't comply?

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    Re: UK's largest chip fab bought by China-owned firm

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    does the bit after the pay wall say "but then will roll over when his Chinese overlords remind him how much UK gov bonds they own, and how they will withdraw financial backing for HS2 and the Hinkley Point power station if he doesn't comply?
    The issue here is the western countries are in-fighting amongst themselves. So the reality is the US/Europe should be working together on these projects,but instead we are all fighting political and trade wars.

    You can see that with the silly nonsense about Boeing and Airbus where the US and Europe are throwing accusations of state aid,when in reality they are both doing it. Or when we destroy each others capabilities so one country can make a bit more money at the expense of another. Instead,we should be helping each other,maybe at "mates rates" to foster improved development of various technologies in the west,and improved economies of scale. But no,we have companies like Apple,trying to save a few million USD to help their stock price,ending up in UK/US tech firms being bought for a song by China. It didn't even work since now they are back to licensing stuff from Imagination Technologies,which instead of 100% benefiting the UK now also benefits their Chinese owners.

    This is how China and Russia sneaks in.
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    Re: UK's largest chip fab bought by China-owned firm

    Interesting report just published by Bloomberg:

    "In total, British semiconductor companies valued at about $42 billion have been sold to foreign buyers since May 2010, when the current Conservative government came to power, according to data compiled by Bloomberg"

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    Re: UK's largest chip fab bought by China-owned firm

    Quote Originally Posted by mtyson View Post
    Interesting report just published by Bloomberg:

    "In total, British semiconductor companies valued at about $42 billion have been sold to foreign buyers since May 2010, when the current Conservative government came to power, according to data compiled by Bloomberg"
    It's hard not to get the impression that the tories would sell their own mothers if they could get away with it.

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