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    Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    However, there are reports that this popular new title is 'bricking' RTX 3090 GPUs.
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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

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    New World is Skynet...

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    The GPU issue is not limited to EVGA cards or to 3090s - this has been reported with a whole range of high end GPUs, including the 3090, 3080ti, 6800XT and 6900XT as well.

    May be worth updating the article to clarify....

    I would be interested to try New World..if they can make a good enough story with enough depth (in the way Blizzard did with WoW) it could get me interested - but a little early to tell and I don't intend to pre order for beta access whilst it's potentially bricking GPUs!

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    I find it quite concerning that some of these GPUs can be designed in such a way that a non-frame rate limited game could cook it? What's to stop an early Direct 7 game with simple graphics from doing the same thing? This reminds me of old CPU's (P3? P4? Athlons?) that would destroy themselves if the heat sink wasn't attached. Now all CPU's safely throttle when unable to handle conditions. Why would a GPU not be designed to do the same? (I know its supposed to be power delivery that's dying but that is monitored too)
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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    I ran the 3dmark laptop bench on my 3070. It went crazy. 900fps at one point and coil whine galore at anything over 600fps. Not making that mistake again.

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I find it quite concerning that some of these GPUs can be designed in such a way that a non-frame rate limited game could cook it?
    Those were my thoughts, i didn't even think software was even capable of doing such a thing but i guess it must be although I've no idea how.

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Those were my thoughts, i didn't even think software was even capable of doing such a thing but i guess it must be although I've no idea how.
    I think my assumption is the menu must be damn simple to render allowing 1000s maybe 10000s of FPS to be rendered and this might put stress on a card in a different way to a computational hard 3d scene but I still a) Don't understand why this wouldn't affect other older titles (or does no one with a 3090 play old games?) b) why the GPU doesn't monitor the power draw/temps etc to prevent this - I can so why wouldn't the card?

    I guess benchmarks don't cause the problem as even with an older benchmark its still requires some computation that brings the FPS back down into the 100s.
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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    I tried new world, on a 3090 btw, had no issues.
    On the other end, the game is mediocre at best, combat is... weak, there's no fast travel because the world is ridiculously small and everything feels like a tech demo, not really an MMO.
    From my point of view its refund material and wait for a sale, 20€ feels like a fair price.

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Actually Hardcore Overclocking has done a video on his thought of the issue, just watching it now.

    First 5min he says it maybe over current protection kicking in and it blowing the fuse.

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I think my assumption is the menu must be damn simple to render allowing 1000s maybe 10000s of FPS to be rendered and this might put stress on a card in a different way to a computational hard 3d scene but I still a) Don't understand why this wouldn't affect other older titles (or does no one with a 3090 play old games?) b) why the GPU doesn't monitor the power draw/temps etc to prevent this - I can so why wouldn't the card?

    I guess benchmarks don't cause the problem as even with an older benchmark its still requires some computation that brings the FPS back down into the 100s.
    I honestly don't know the answer to b in this scenario, however the 3090 will throttle due to temps for memory, not sure about power delivery itself though? On a complete tangent though, that's just sloppy work from the developers not limiting the frame rate on title / menu screens. Anthem is one game I can recall off the top of my head that had stupidly high frame rates on loading screens prior to patching to cap them.

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Let us try a free one-month trial!

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Cynic in me....

    Bezos wants another jolly into space and had a meeting to discuss how to fund the next trip....conclusion.....charge $20 to kill the gpu's of gamers trying out our beta game and then encourage them to buy a new gpu from the store.

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I find it quite concerning that some of these GPUs can be designed in such a way that a non-frame rate limited game could cook it?
    Those were my thoughts, i didn't even think software was even capable of doing such a thing but i guess it must be although I've no idea how.
    In simple terms: a software sends instructions to the CPU/GPU. These parts will ramp up their performance to complete the task(s) and to do so, they need additional power; more power = more heat. The strange thing is, protections are not working properly... so, is the software overriding the protections?

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    Re: Amazon's New World beta hit 190k concurrent users yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Udyr View Post
    In simple terms: a software sends instructions to the CPU/GPU. These parts will ramp up their performance to complete the task(s) and to do so, they need additional power; more power = more heat. The strange thing is, protections are not working properly... so, is the software overriding the protections?
    I'd sort of guessed at the simple terms version. :: I was more wondering how software could get round all the levels of protection that's built into something like a GPU, for it to hit the last line('s) of defence, the OCP and then the fuse seems odd.

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