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    QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    A calm and creative space, says Microsoft. What say you?
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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Popcorn ready... tick

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Haven't tried it yet, but I'll upgrade shortly after it's released, then do a clean install. I'm sure it'll be fine. Restoring an old backup is always an option, if not.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Also not tried it and won't until my time comes round for it to be offered to me next year. Early adopters can do their bug finding first.

    Based on what I have read however, I don't see it as being a huge upgrade, just a gentle evolution with improved security and a few other changes just because they can, like moving the start button...

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    If you've followed the other thread my opinion is probably well known

    Generally its nice, works fine, like a nice small evolution from windows 10. It does not feel like a new OS or that it's really worthly of the "11" name, but then again that doesn't really matter

    It has some silly annoyances - chiefly the fixed taskbar which is far too thick, and the frankly awful redesign of the context menus which makes them harder to use.

    I'm sure it will get there, but hopefully MS will make it more configurable as we get closer to the final version so we can keep sensible context menus and adjust the taskbar so we don't have a load of wasted screen real estate.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    I don't know... but if it keep saying userfriendly when not being able to touch the interface and what is inside of easy... like advanced use... then in my opinion it would not be userfriendly at all if shielded from all that.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    It looks nice and I would try it but my Ryzen 5 1600X isn't suppported :-(

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    I hate reinstalling my OS, as I then have to remember where all the settings are and what I changed/tweaked to my liking over the previous months/years. It takes forever to reconfig everything.... and now I'll have a brand new OS where everything is in totally different places, with stacks more features and presumably bloatware to go through and turf out.
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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Experiences are only from running it in VirtualBox - it's not touching it as my primary build until at least release or likely later.

    It's pretty decent. The settings make more sense by having the main categories in a column at all times, rather than Win 10 and having to back up to switch from the root system and root update menus. It's a nice touch.

    Visually, it looks like an improvement all round so far.

    Really not convinced with the start menu though. Not that I'll necessarily miss live tiles (and having stuck with Windows Phone from 7-10, for too long) but the new Start menu likely won't work for me. I've grown used to using the Win8/10 start menus full screen and using it as an app launcher. The Win11 Start Menu is too restricive and I simply can't pin apps in the numbers I like - not allowing folders for pinned apps really is a likely dealbreaker.

    And the recently used files part of the Start Menu is useless, I only open files either from their respective folder or directly from the app. I have no use for it on the Start Menu and not having a way to remove what is wasted space doesn't make me happy.

    That's before we get to the minimum requirements. The biggest issue is that I've got 3 computers, including the OG Surface Go (that's still less than 3 years old) that don't officially support it. Pretty much every PC I've owned has supported at least 2 versions of Windows & Microosft seems happy to not offer Windows 11 to devices that have only ever suppoer Windows 10 (I don't count different builds of Win10 as separate versions of Windows). I won't be happy with anything less than support being backdated to at least Skylake, or anything that has only ever been officially supported by only Windows 10.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    I say i'm jumping over to linux before this is forced on me. From the steam deck news it seems I can play most of my games on linux now, combined with windows constant monitoring and buggy updates I think the jump over is overdue for me.
    Time to do some serious linux research I think !

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Comp....sorry Windows 11 said no.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    By just the looks of it, i am not even going to try it out, so will have to wait until the day i am forced into it.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Quote Originally Posted by blokeinkent View Post
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    Contrary to expectations, my opinion is .... I don't really have one, yet. It's too early for me to tell, as it could (and arguably already has) change.

    From what I've seen, and previously said, there's things I like, things I don't care about, and things I really rather don't like. Mostly, what I don't like is that some things seem to be done for no good reason, like locking the task bar to the bottom. Why lock it? Especially as it seems very likely some 3rd party will come along about 5 minutes after launch (if not before launch) with a utility to unlock it again.

    And that is what so irritates me. It seems to be daft, petty and arbitrary decisions like that for no real gain. Why? Why do they do it? It's almost like they're setting out to wind people up.

    But overall? My impression is there's much good, some bad, but I don't much care at this point. If I like the final product, I might switch. If I don't, I won't. and it won't (unlike the last time with W8) cause me any real grief either way.
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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Wouldn't know, like thousands of others, Windows 11 won't run on my beast of a gaming PC because ASUS could not have been arsed to include TPM on the expensive motherboard I bought from them nor enable the PTT option in the BIOS which they've not released an update for since 2018. Yeah. This iteration of Windows will be skipped.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Best thing about WII is it will hopefully mean they'll pay less attention to 10. I've got better things to do than keep track of things changing in an OS every 6-12 months, it was a PITA when it was every 10 years but at least that was time well invested.

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    Re: QOTW: Early impressions of Windows 11?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    Contrary to expectations, my opinion is .... I don't really have one, yet. It's too early for me to tell, as it could (and arguably already has) change.

    From what I've seen, and previously said, there's things I like, things I don't care about, and things I really rather don't like. Mostly, what I don't like is that some things seem to be done for no good reason, like locking the task bar to the bottom. Why lock it? Especially as it seems very likely some 3rd party will come along about 5 minutes after launch (if not before launch) with a utility to unlock it again.

    And that is what so irritates me. It seems to be daft, petty and arbitrary decisions like that for no real gain. Why? Why do they do it? It's almost like they're setting out to wind people up.

    But overall? My impression is there's much good, some bad, but I don't much care at this point. If I like the final product, I might switch. If I don't, I won't. and it won't (unlike the last time with W8) cause me any real grief either way.
    I don't know about earlier releases but in yesterdays release (.100) I could tweak the registry to get taskbar top, right, but not left (that crashed):

    Code:
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckRects3
    Double click Settings key and on row 00000008 change the 5th value from 03 (which is bottom) to 01 (which is top)

    Then either restart or kill explorer.exe process in Task Manager, and then run it again as a new task.



    You can also change the height of the taskbar from small, middle, large:

    Code:
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
    Add a new DWORD (32-bit) key and call it TaskbarSi. Open this and change it's value to either 0, 1, or 2.

    Then either restart or kill explorer.exe process in Task Manager, and then run it again as a new task.



    There's supposed to be one to switch to classic Start menu but I couldn't get it working.

    Although Reg hacks for now there's every chance they might work their way into final release but failing that it's as easy as running a .reg file or somebody will come up with a simple configuration tool like TaskbarXI etc.

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