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    Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Enhanced 10nm SuperFin is to be called 'Intel 7', Intel's 7nm will be 'Intel 4', and so on.
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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    lol, why not 10+++ ?
    Seriously though, good attempt on making it sound better than what it is.

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    I just like how they skipped 5 and called it 4.
    I'm fine with the idea that if someone has a really neat enhancement to 7 then they can shout it from the rooftops and call it 6 or even 5 rather than 7++, but skipping straight down to 4 when the traditional 7/sqrt(2) is 4.95 seems a bit much.

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    As ever, we will rely on sites like Hexus to tell us the facts, not just what companies want to brand things (hopefully they will do better than when they repeated a deceptive claim about "VESA HDR 2000"..)

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    (Play the Mark and Spencer advert tune in your head)
    This isn't just any old 10nm, this is intel tuned (then tuned, tuned then tuned again) 10nm.
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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Intel's naming, processes, structure and technology strategy - Throw enough mud, some will stick.

    Fast-forward 5 years, Intel are still on 10nm++++++++++

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    I would prefer to able to trust what stand on the box

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    All the fabs use different measurements to determine what "nm" it is,and apparently Intel 10NM SuperFin is actually closer to a 7NM process node.

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    While nm and reality departed a long time ago, I think Intel still believe theirs is the best or better than TSMC or Samsung.
    That plus marketing and more share price are my guesses for why they did this.

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    This is better than every review having to point out that intel x nm is about the same as TSMC x/(2^0.5) nm. I'm more interested in:
    - What will Qualcomm make? Top end, or did they get a great deal on 600-level parts (assuming the X00 naming convention survives the transition to ARMv9)? Will qualcomm dual source SoCs, letting us directly compare intel 20A and TSMC's latest greatest?
    - AWS makes chips?

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Interesting trends that Intel is using the statements of a competitor so that they can get a soft landing. Cuddles Intel I am DEEPLY sorry for crushing your innovations in forums.

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    - AWS makes chips?
    Who doesn't these days

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/15578...-intel-and-amd

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    - AWS makes chips?
    ARM's licence model has or is about to ruin all those juicy high margins.

    Intel should have seen that coming as volume is how they killed of all the RISC workstation players decades ago.

    BTW, wonder if Intel are just trying to confuse things with Ångström, or being Americans they didn't realise that it is not an SI unit being 0.1nm or 100pm?

    Anyway, if marketing wants to explain why Intel's 20A is better than the competition's 3nm, good luck!

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Ångström is very well understood by most people dealing with that scale of things I think - most of my career has been looking at things in that scale so all of a sudden I know what they're talking about! (Though I would consider 20A as very blobby indeed, get to 2A and then we're talking).

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Ångström is very well understood by most people dealing with that scale of things I think - most of my career has been looking at things in that scale so all of a sudden I know what they're talking about! (Though I would consider 20A as very blobby indeed, get to 2A and then we're talking).
    Okay, I remember coming across laser cutters and they always quoted their wavelengths in nm. Which make me consider Ångström to be a bit old fashioned although sometimes you still see wavelengths quoted in them. But 20A is bigger than 2nm, although marketing would have to override people expecting silicon node numbers to go down.

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    Re: Intel announces node renaming and roadmap to the Angstrom era

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Okay, I remember coming across laser cutters and they always quoted their wavelengths in nm. Which make me consider Ångström to be a bit old fashioned although sometimes you still see wavelengths quoted in them. But 20A is bigger than 2nm, although marketing would have to override people expecting silicon node numbers to go down.
    Oh yeah, it could completely be old fashioned - I guess once a field starts using something then it's quite hard to change later on as everyone is used to the previous scale (we have only just done away with a format designed for use with punch cards...)

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