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    UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    The same strategy proved a success in Spain and other countries.
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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Have they not realised that we have already been doing this for yonks, and that all those other countries only got the idea because we already sold it to them??!!

    Yes, a very "innovative" concept that we should use a strategy that we are already using, and that we ourselves invented......
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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Have they not realised that we have already been doing this for yonks, and that all those other countries only got the idea because we already sold it to them??!!

    Yes, a very "innovative" concept that we should use a strategy that we are already using, and that we ourselves invented......
    Oh, c'mon, Tasky .... when has any politician ever let facts or actual reality stand in the way of a good PR opportunity?

    I mean, you know how this works. Announce it. Announce it again. Pretend you forgot and announce it. Hold a 'review', then .... announce you're proceeding. Add 50p to the budget, then announce increased funding specifying, of course, the 'new' budget while skirting over the previous one that was 50p smaller. Then, in case there's some hermit in a cave halfway up Annapurna that hasn't heard, yup .... altogether now .... announce it.
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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Brilliant! Now I can look forward to 200Gb/s on tap!
    I'll just get me coat....

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    I imagine that the £4m 'trial', is just a way to give some rural Tory MP fibre broadband to his home, that was previously ruinously expensive for him/her.

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmaheid View Post
    Brilliant! Now I can look forward to 200Gb/s on tap!
    I'll just get me coat....
    *GUNSHOT*

    By the way, it was Labour that wanted free full-fibre broadband everywhere. The Tory favouritism toward private companies is the only reason GigaClear were able to give rural peasants like me 900Mbps, else we'd still be stuck with the 0.7Mbps on the antiquated former public assets that BT inherited.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    Oh, c'mon, Tasky .... when has any politician ever let facts or actual reality stand in the way of a good PR opportunity?
    It's not going to be good PR when people realise we've already got it, though.
    It'd almost be like trialling the idea of reflective markers down the road, or public houses that serve alcohol... It's what they have in Norway, you know. Oh yes, very successful, there.... !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Have they not realised that we have already been doing this for yonks, and that all those other countries only got the idea because we already sold it to them??!!

    Yes, a very "innovative" concept that we should use a strategy that we are already using, and that we ourselves invented......
    Yeah sure, only 'Blighty' invents anything, everyone else copies it LOL. Nationalist exceptionalism FTW
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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleiades View Post
    Yeah sure, only 'Blighty' invents anything, everyone else copies it LOL. Nationalist exceptionalism FTW
    In this instance, it's true. It's one of the main reasons the Germans bought our company, and subsequently used what we had for their own overseas projects. Some of my guys were the engineers they sent out to oversee the implementation.

    The point is not about what country, but that the government is using our own money to buy us stuff we already own.
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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    The annoying thing is UK.gov has known for a decade or more than the digital infrastructure needs improving, to absolutely nobodies surprise they've sat on their hands and done very little.

    Instead of looking for a quick fix or a bodge using water pipes, they should have seized the initiative years ago, by forcing new housing developments to cater for future digital expansion with something better than BT copper cables, why does every new home not get kitted out with DOCSIS or FTTP? While they're at it what about adding solar panels, a ground source heat pump and an electric car charger?

    Leveling up... Like hell they are.

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by Animus404 View Post
    The annoying thing is UK.gov has known for a decade or more than the digital infrastructure needs improving, to absolutely nobodies surprise they've sat on their hands and done very little.

    Instead of looking for a quick fix or a bodge using water pipes, they should have seized the initiative years ago, by forcing new housing developments to cater for future digital expansion with something better than BT copper cables, why does every new home not get kitted out with DOCSIS or FTTP? While they're at it what about adding solar panels, a ground source heat pump and an electric car charger?

    Leveling up... Like hell they are.
    There was consideration to roll out fiber nationally to replace the copper network in the early 80s. BT also became privatised in the mid-80s.

    So yeah...

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    If they put it in the wrong pipes they are literally taking the piss!

    https://archive.google.com/tisp/index.html


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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
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    It's not going to be good PR when people realise we've already got it, though.
    It'd almost be like trialling the idea of reflective markers down the road, or public houses that serve alcohol... It's what they have in Norway, you know. Oh yes, very successful, there.... !
    Oh, it will, despite that. You underestmate beaurocratic deviousness.

    Ever read, I think it was called "Term Limits"? First Vince Flynn book that preceded the Mitch Rapp series? For those that haven't, a bunch of ex-special forces soldiers decide to impose 'term limits' on corrupt career politicans. They 'limit' those politicatians via 'termination', i.e. assassination. Why? The politicians are so busy, allegedly, corrupting the system by over-inflating the budget, and using it to bride, I mean fund favourite projects of all sorts of other self-serving politicians. i.e. you scratch my back, I'll fund someone to scratch yours.

    Hold on. I'm almost at the point. One non-corrupt politician refuses to vote for the budget unless the president scraps the "Rural Electrification Administration" (REA) which still has it's several hundred million dollars a year funding, pointing out rural electrification was completed several decades earlier.

    Okay, so that was fiction. Sort of. But the REA is not. It was part of Roosevelt's 1930s New Deal, was drafted in 1935, enacted in 1936, and still exists today. It's just changed focus, and name. Last I heard, it was the Rural Utilities Service (RUS) and was proposing, in about 2014-15, rural fast ethernet (gigabit) services. Sounding familiar?

    NOTE - I'm not suggesting the book's theme (scrap rural schemes or we'll kill you) is a good idea, or that the RUS is a con. Frankly, the assassination bit is a tad extreme (ummm, maybe), and the second .... I've no idea how close to reality the book's hypothesis is. All I'm saying is that that is how politicians and beaurocrats play the PR game, and the book is at least right about that. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks, and there's a politician anywhere nearby, it's probably a turkey.

    The rest? Well, it is fiction.

    Isn't it?

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    If they put it in the wrong pipes they are literally taking the piss!

    Frankly, it feels like they're watering down the product.

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    Frankly, it feels like they're watering down the product.
    They are selling us down the river!

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    If they put it in the wrong pipes they are literally taking the piss!

    https://archive.google.com/tisp/index.html
    My virgin line uses the drainage system to go from virgin box to the edge of my property.

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    Re: UK Gov back £4m trial of fibre broadband via water pipes

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    They are selling us down the river!
    Well, as long as they don't go bust. I'd hate to see all this tech liquidated.

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