Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

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17-08-2021, 11:11 AM
HEXUS

Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

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New 'Pro' boasts 18GB RAM / 512GB storage, so there was no need for an 'Ultimate'.

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17-08-2021, 11:29 AM
CAT-THE-FIFTH

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

Would be awesome if more of these smartphones had a Samsung DEX like mode,where you could dock the phone,and use it with a keyboard and a bigger screen.

With 18GB of RAM,that should be more than enough for a bit of multi-tasking!
17-08-2021, 05:30 PM
Spud1

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

Yeah that would be a really nice feature!

Not a fan of these phones personally, but I appreciate the fact they are offering Ram upgrades *not* tied to a storage upgrade too - pretty rare in my experience and offers some real choice.
17-08-2021, 07:11 PM
philehidiot

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

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Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH

Would be awesome if more of these smartphones had a Samsung DEX like mode,where you could dock the phone,and use it with a keyboard and a bigger screen.

With 18GB of RAM,that should be more than enough for a bit of multi-tasking!

I have 12GB on my phone. It was an "upgrade" that came with the 5G version of the device. Because more mobile bandwidth requires more RAM? As a DEX device it's really, really good and an excellent way to use an older laptop.

Unfortunately, it somehow uses far more CPU chooch to use DEX than it would to just do the same tasks on the laptop and the battery dies in about an hour.

I'm strongly considering getting a USB dock and making it look like I'm working but I've actually turned my work computer into a dual monitor gaming rig with my phone.

Unfortunately, the only games I get to play there at the moment involve farting in a small room with no ventilation, closing the door and waiting for someone to ask if there's something wrong with the drains.
17-08-2021, 07:50 PM
CAT-THE-FIFTH

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

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Originally Posted by philehidiot

I have 12GB on my phone. It was an "upgrade" that came with the 5G version of the device. Because more mobile bandwidth requires more RAM? As a DEX device it's really, really good and an excellent way to use an older laptop.

Unfortunately, it somehow uses far more CPU chooch to use DEX than it would to just do the same tasks on the laptop and the battery dies in about an hour.

I'm strongly considering getting a USB dock and making it look like I'm working but I've actually turned my work computer into a dual monitor gaming rig with my phone.

Unfortunately, the only games I get to play there at the moment involve farting in a small room with no ventilation, closing the door and waiting for someone to ask if there's something wrong with the drains.

I am hopeful with Qualcomm/Samsung/Google working together on 4/5 years of support for newer SOCs,we might start to see more consistent optimisations,and updates in general. Android does seem somewhat bloated compared to Fruity Company Co OS.

The thing is with some of these higher end SOCs,they seem more like laptop/tablet SOCs stuffed into a smartphone,ie,the Apple M1 and the new Exynos 2200(RDNA2). It just seems a waste,with so much processing power,and more RAM than most £500 laptops have to waste it on a small screen like that. Something like a Switch-like dock could provide extra cooling,mains power and more ports,and for a casual user it could replace two devices with one.
17-08-2021, 08:16 PM
philehidiot

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

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Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH

I am hopeful with Qualcomm/Samsung/Google working together on 4/5 years of support for newer SOCs,we might start to see more consistent optimisations,and updates in general. Android does seem somewhat bloated compared to Fruity Company Co OS.

The thing is with some of these higher end SOCs,they seem more like laptop/tablet SOCs stuffed into a smartphone,ie,the Apple M1 and the new Exynos 2200(RDNA2). It just seems a waste,with so much processing power,and more RAM than most £500 laptops have to waste it on a small screen like that. Something like a Switch-like dock could provide extra cooling,mains power and more ports,and for a casual user it could replace two devices with one.

Indeed. There's something a bit disgusting about wasting more power than most laptop systems have on phone calls and checking hexus on the toilet.

I'd very much like to see a laptop type frame which properly utilised these devices. Surely businessy type people would love to be able to just drop a phone into a laptop, full home / office set up and then access all their stuff on the move even without the larger screen? The performance I got from my phone on DEX was enough to easily blow away both laptops in the house. The only computer I own that it didn't pwn in terms of everyday usability is the 3900X based system.

The downside is you have all of your work on a phone / cloud with all the associated spyware nonsense and I can definitely see why a business would prefer a laptop they can properly lock down.
17-08-2021, 08:32 PM
CAT-THE-FIFTH

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Originally Posted by philehidiot

Indeed. There's something a bit disgusting about wasting more power than most laptop systems have on phone calls and checking hexus on the toilet.

I'd very much like to see a laptop type frame which properly utilised these devices. Surely businessy type people would love to be able to just drop a phone into a laptop, full home / office set up and then access all their stuff on the move even without the larger screen? The performance I got from my phone on DEX was enough to easily blow away both laptops in the house. The only computer I own that it didn't pwn in terms of everyday usability is the 3900X based system.

Motorola,did try it with the Atrix,but 10 years ago the hardware/software wasn't there I suspect.

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Originally Posted by philehidiot

The downside is you have all of your work on a phone / cloud with all the associated spyware nonsense and I can definitely see why a business would prefer a laptop they can properly lock down.

Windows is also going that way sadly - but I was on the Samsung website reading about their Enterprise Android devices(those have the 5 year support):
https://news.samsung.com/global/sams...mended-program

I have not read much into AER,so I suspect there might be some additional way to lock these down then?? Various militaries do deploy locked down Android/iOS devices so I would expect there must be a way to manage this all(unless its custom distros?).
17-08-2021, 11:40 PM
Xlucine

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

Apple has the patent on dropping a phone in where the trackpad should be on a dumb laptop, and samsung patented putting it between keyboard and screen.
18-08-2021, 07:06 AM
lumireleon

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

Just wondering if there is an android game that uses 10 gigs or RAM (paper specs VS reality).
18-08-2021, 09:55 AM
Kanoe

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Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH

Motorola,did try it with the Atrix,but 10 years ago the hardware/software wasn't there I suspect.

I had that phone, was very fun to play with and had most of the accessories for it too. Was hoping the concept would continue as you say most phones have better specs that laptops, especially now.
19-08-2021, 06:33 PM
philehidiot

Re: Asus launches the ROG Phone 5s and ROG Phone 5s Pro

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Originally Posted by Kanoe

I had that phone, was very fun to play with and had most of the accessories for it too. Was hoping the concept would continue as you say most phones have better specs that laptops, especially now.

I was very close to buying one of those but I didn't want to invest a load in stuff that wasn't going to be transferrable to another platform or sucessor device.