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    O2 changes Ts&Cs to allow call data sharing

    O2 has changed its terms and conditions to allow it to share "...the date, duration, time and cost of such communications and the location of your mobile phone".
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    I always get charged loads by O2 for data calls, they are a rip off!

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    "The Data Protection Act stops companies sharing information about the movements of individuals without permission"


    Not quite true, someone call a lawyer...

    The data controller may only process data for the purposes which they are established or otherwise within a specific statutory authroity, only then is it ultra vires. The movement of individuals in this regard is neither conisdered personal data or sensitive personal data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCFCRULE69 View Post
    I always get charged loads by O2 for data calls, they are a rip off!
    A bit off topic (although I confused the title with that at first)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCFCRULE69 View Post
    I always get charged loads by O2 for data calls, they are a rip off!
    did you even read the article summary at the top of the page?

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    Sharing it with debt collectors.. oh oh. better stop spending all this money on PC's

    Seriously though, thats gotaa be invasion of privacy. I'm pretty sure the police cant follow your movements with authority so why should the phone company be able to and share with who they see fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    Sharing it with debt collectors.. oh oh. better stop spending all this money on PC's

    Seriously though, thats gotaa be invasion of privacy. I'm pretty sure the police cant follow your movements with authority so why should the phone company be able to and share with who they see fit?
    They arn't tracking where you are, they track where the phone you use is. There is no mention that the data is stored in such a way that it is personally identifiable to you, the living breathing individual.
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    Ultimately I don't know, but in accordance with DP and FOI laws you can make an FOI request to the data controller regarding this, and if you think the data processing is unsatisfactory or contravenes the legislation then you can write a letter to the information commissioner explaining who and why, or you can request that the data is striken from the data controllers records citing your reasons. It would be best of course if those reasons referred to specific portions of DP legislation, perhaps such as 'the ... personal data should not be kept any longer than is necessary for the purpose(s) it is processed' but of course you need to first prove the data is personal.
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    if a compnay change there T&C's can i then cancel my contract without paying anything off?

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    That depends whether or not your current contract states they can change their T&C's whenever they like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curfish View Post
    if a compnay change there T&C's can i then cancel my contract without paying anything off?
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    im sure its probably a standard thing that says they can, ill have to have a read

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamangman View Post
    That depends whether or not your current contract states they can change their T&C's whenever they like.
    Not true.
    Just because its written into a contract does NOT make it override the law of the land!
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    I didn't think such an obvious point needed mentioning...

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Not true.
    Just because its written into a contract does NOT make it override the law of the land!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamangman View Post
    I didn't think such an obvious point needed mentioning...
    It was a correction of what you claim. You say that being able to cancel with no penalties depends on whether the contract states they can change their T's and C's whenever they like.
    It doesn't matter what the contract says. If they change it or their T's and C's then you can leave the contract with no penalty.
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    Infact that's not true. An alteration could be argued legally that perhaps it is beyond what you would expect of a contractual alteration, but if you have agreed a fixed term contract with such a stipulation, than you may have to endure changes, or otherwise challenge the alteration.

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    It was a correction of what you claim. You say that being able to cancel with no penalties depends on whether the contract states they can change their T's and C's whenever they like.
    It doesn't matter what the contract says. If they change it or their T's and C's then you can leave the contract with no penalty.
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