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    RIAA sues Allofmp3 for more than Russia's GDP

    The Recording Industry Ass. of America - defender of money grabbing luddite record labels and molester of talented artists* - has decided that allofmp3.com must pay for its terrible crime of abiding by Russian copyright law.

    They're suing for every song downloaded from the Russian mp3 website by US citizens over a five month period this year. That's 11 million downloads. RIAA reckons that for every song downloaded - for roughly $1 - damages of $150 000 can be sought. That's $1.65 trillion in total, or to put it another way, roughly as much as the estimated GDP of Russia.

    About now I would normally express various opinions about draconian business models, bully tactics and the right way to go about questioning dubious Russian copyright laws, but I can't be bothered. The idiocy here is clear; I need say no more.

    Read more over at Red Herring.


    * Not necessarily true... I'm not keen on being sued £20m
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    I read they filed this in New York... which doesn't exactly have jurisdiction over anything that goes on in Russia.

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    Indeed, so why are they doing it?

    Are they trying to make people think allofmp3 has caused $1.65tn work of damage to the American recording industry?
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    Doubt it - they're powerless to do anything, so suing for a rather large amount of money is all they can try

    God Bless the Recording Industry Ass. of American

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Indeed, so why are they doing it?

    Are they trying to make people think allofmp3 has caused $1.65tn work of damage to the American recording industry?
    Indeed, they're trying the hearts and minds crap again..
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    The RIAA always sue for $150K per infringement, as that is the maximum damages they are allowed to claim. If it is Joe public they are suing, then they are generally looking for a quick settlement for around $3K total, and filling suit for $10M is fairly effective at getting someone's attention, and getting them to had over what is effectively a hefty fine, that they can only just afford, but does not bankrupt them like at $10M judgment would.

    Their problem in Allofmp3's case is that they need to maintain a similar ratio between the amount of infringement and the overall damages paid, so that would probably be about $100M. Snag is, that would bankrupt Allofmp3 (which is what the RIAA want anyway), so Allofmp3 will fight like a cornered rat instead of settling, as they have nothing more to loose. As Allofmp3 are a limited company, the maximum liability the directors and shareholders will face is limited to the value of their holdings, so they don't risk personal bankruptcy.

    If the RIAA looses, Allofmp3 would be able to claim costs, they are probably also suing RIAA for malicious prosecution or suchlike, so they would be able to collect much more.

    All this assumes that Allofmp3 turns up to the court in NY, which appears unlikely.

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    This is all assuming that AllofMP3's business takes place in America, which it doesn't. Therefore filing this in the US is going to be useless as it will be very difficult to bring charges against a foreign company with no US assets (or very little).

    As for the amount, typically silly and hopefully other news agencies will pick this up and show how silly all this RIAA business is.

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    Morons. Another stupid case from the RIAA

    Some good news for Joe Public though http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061222-8488.html

    Labels now have to prove you made the files available for download.

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    Its Jordan and Peter Andre that I feel sorry for in all this.
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    are all americans as stupid is as the RIAA? really, it does make me wonder.

    or do you just have to be below a certain IQ to be hired there?

    it seems like all smart americans emmigrate to canada or austrailia, heh

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    just like when an American spammer filed a lawsuit against spamhaus a (uk organization with no us assets) in a American court. he won 10mil but has no way to collect it. they are a all looking for a way to legitimize what they are doing by suing companys or people who can't defend or won't themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMagnus View Post
    are all americans as stupid is as the RIAA? really, it does make me wonder.

    or do you just have to be below a certain IQ to be hired there?

    it seems like all smart americans emmigrate to canada or austrailia, heh
    or england
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    It's all about money at the end of the day. Its not about the copying of content, thats just a convenient front to use. Hell I'd even argue that the illegal shearing of content actually promotes an artist/product more than paid for advertising. The music industry probably makes more money today with the existence of illegal downloading and copying of content than it did 10 years ago when there was virtually no downloading/copying of songs, its such a grossly saturated industry these days that they can make money from almost any artist even if their crap. Its just a money grabbing industry just like the movie industry. They make me sick tbh.


    UPDATE: AllofMP3 has responded.

    If their complying to Russian law, shouldn't the RIAA (an American company) taken the Russian government to court? I bet that would make the political stance rosy
    Last edited by Dorza; 28-12-2006 at 10:09 PM.

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    Look at it this way, its all very good publicity for allofmp3.com. Global recognition cant be such a bad thing, every news story they are in tells of their cheap music.

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    Yeah they've probably made thousands in extra song sales, just from this court case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorza View Post
    If their complying to Russian law, shouldn't the RIAA (an American company) taken the Russian government to court? I bet that would make the political stance rosy
    I believe the Russian government IS taking allofmp3 to court. It's actually a very smart move for the RIAA to go to court in New York, it's not random. It's very likely they will win as they only have to prove their artist's copyright has been violated which it clearly has under US law as they did not give permission for allofmp3 to use their music and they recieve no royalties from it. Then (and here's the important bit) they can petition ICANN to liquidate the domain names, and where is ICANN located? New York of course.

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