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    Bumbling Boris Johnson - should we really listen to his views on videogames?

    The conservative MP has a bee in his bonnet about videogames.

    Check out the Headline for more info.

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    I rarely listen to anything any politician has to say on any subject but I, on principle, I won't listen to his views.

    I'm not from Liverpool but I find him a poor caricature with a contrived scruffiness*/bumbling nature.

    So... no...

    *see for example St Bob Geldof, a fine individual but he makes sure he's scruffy etc. and that annoys me.

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    I'm usually a fan of Borris and his rants ('Civilisation was built on Physics , not media studies' is a particular favourite ) Perhaps he is a little misguided and yes there are benefits of the newer gaming systems , but are they as social as forms of entertainment of bygone years ?

    Working for a gaming site , your opinion is bound to be a touch on the slanted side , just as some with relativly old fashioned views would be less likely to see the positive side of non stop gaming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moby-Dick View Post

    Working for a gaming site , your opinion is bound to be a touch on the slanted side
    Very true.

    I went to University, got an education and I've played videogames since the age of 10, it hasn't affected me or my motivation to work hard when I was younger - honest guv'nor.

    Once again the issue is with the parents being educated and perhaps monitoring how long their chlidren are playing games for - a balance of videogaming and other social interactions isn't going to harm any one.

    Videogames don't ruin people's lives, other people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hexus
    should we really listen to his views on videogames?
    Of course we should. The day someone is incapable of hearing a view point and making their own mind up is the day we're all zombies

    And to be honest, he's got a point - I certainly think more 'old fashioned' games are better for the majority of children than computer games.

    Sure, 'brain training' may boost some things, but it's not doing it any better than half a dozen traditional games.

    Let kids have some play time on computers, but for goodness sake keep it in moderation.

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    Boris is good for a laugh, but unless he's hosting Have I Got News For You, he is best ignored. He knows less than nothing about gaming, and he's confused at the best of times.

    I wish him no harm, but lets all agree to ignore him.

    EDIT - I wish him a bit of harm actually, because he should know better - just Lyme disease or something. Good old Boris, I hope he gets that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    but for goodness sake keep it in moderation.

    So only 8hrs of CSS a day then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    Boris is good for a laugh, but unless he's hosting Have I Got News For You, he is best ignored. He knows less than nothing about gaming, and he's confused at the best of times.

    I wish him no harm, but lets all agree to ignore him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Of course we should.
    Good point, bit of a rubbish headline that, if I do say so myself.

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    although he is misguided, I think that alot of kids do play FAR too much on computer games.

    Yes they can be educational, but reading books etc are also. In addition kids do not play football as much etc and computer games play a part in this.

    I played on computers since the age of 10 as well, but I was well moderated by my parents. These days kids seem to be playing video games from the age of 5 (or younger!!) which I totally disagree with. They should be out playing sports and with friends in the the 'fresh'(?) air.

    P.S. Although Boris is a scruffy git, his 'bumbling act' is just that - an act. When he makes serious speeches, although littered with archaic phraseology he makes very intelligent points. He is not an idiot that is for sure and before all his shagging about came to light he was widely tipped as a future Prime Minister or at least Tory leader.

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    i have to agree with the direction of the article, the fact that kids play too much video-games.

    I hear stories from my mum and dad (both teachers) about how the kids cant read, write etc.

    My dads a maths teacher, and was doing a probability class. He asked the kids what was the probability of pulling an ace from a pack of cards, and they didn't know how many aces were in a pack???

    Then we've got the Scottish Maths Council wanting to teach kids how to roll dice and play poker, to bring interest in Maths. How on earth can this possibly be a good idea???

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    Having grown up in the 1970s I can remember people predicting that watching tv would stunt the educational abilities of the kids. I think watching a fair bit of tv when I was younger led to me developing a good general knowledge.

    Standards of literacy are very poor - you only have to have a look at an average web forum to see that - and I know lecturers at college have been pointing to a steady decline.

    I don't think the answer to this is simple though, I imagine it's a problem with a number of causes. Things are being dumbed-down, no question. GCSEs are easier than O-Levels (I took both) and A-levels and degrees have been cheapened. When I went to college I had 18 hours of exams, my friend got exactly the same degree level as me on 6 hours of exams (and with little or no coursework, I might add.) I think upgrading polytechnics to universities was a retrograde move but I also think that parents need to do more with their kids and interact with them.

    I also think every generation despairs of the one before them (people in England were grumbling that archery was on the decline and that they'd never win another battle shortly before Agincourt for example).

    My point is this: every generation has its problems and distractions but also every generation has stepped up when it's been asked to (or had to). I don't think video games are any more of a threat than television is/was.

    JMHO of course.

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