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I'm not sure higher clocks would be good for a 24/7 overclock though? 4.3Ghz is only 400Mhz over the turbo frequency of a stock 4770...
Well if higher overclocks aren't good then why are you fussing that 4.3ghz is too low?
As I just said the non-K CPUs can only overclock by 4 bins (400mhz), but if a 4770K can only overclock to 4.4/4.5 on average then you are only losing 100/200mhz.
Mind you if you get a decent chip like HardOCP then 4.8ghz at 1.26v sounds pretty tasty.
Am I missing something? They compared a £258 high-end i7-4770k against AMD's mid-range £96.70 A10-5800k APU.... Where is the FX-8350?
Hexus you disappoint me, I would have hoped for a fair comparison. You are working independent of Intel or anyone sponsored by Intel... aren't you? Wreaks, much in the same way as the illegal lobbying that been going on as of late.
You're supposed to be acting in the best interest of the consumer not filling your pockets with back handers. I'm not saying the best* CPU is an FX-8350 but rather you haven't given a true snapshot showing all the viable alternative solutions available.
Before anyone calls me a fanboy. I'm writing this on my main desktop, an Intel i5-2500k. My laptop is also powered by an i7-720QM. And I don't own any of the current AMD CPUs, just the Phenom X4 940, X4 965 and X6 1055T.
This 'review' has to be taken with an enormous pinch of salt.
* depending on your requirements.
It's because they are comparing the IGP.
The FX-8350 isn't going to run 3dMark very well without a GPU!
Not including a CPU you'd have liked......and then comparing to it illegal lobbying?
You might want to take a step back from the TV
It's not like Haswell really changes anything compared to Ivy vs Vishera.
If Intel suited you better before it still will and vice versa.
If you really want some data look around the web, there are plenty of reviews and datasets around.
Comes free with my motherboard, and most other Z77 motherboards when I was looking. It gives me the extra performance to take Shogun 2 to max settings at 1920x1200, I was restricted to just below max settings before due to my HD6950's 1Gb of VRAM
I find it useful, it does cause Windows to have a fit about Aero being used when I game though.
Intel's priorities are pretty clear:Ie, it's mobile all the way. In that market, this is a significant improvement and keeps Intel pushing ahead of AMD. They're both fighting for mobile at the moment.
Just because they choose to look at the IGP in this article, they sure aren't focusing it solely upon it. Is there many people that will send £258 on a CPU without getting a dedicated GPU?
Alternatively you could buy an AMD CPU and a GPU for the same kind of money. The i5-2500k and i7-2600k don't have values for some benchmarks, big deal if the FX-8350 was also listed without any for some.
The A10-5800k and FX-8350 both use the same core architecture. True.
But their clock/cache/core count all differ. Is the i5 the same as the i7? Physically, yes. Logically, no.
I don't need or want an FX-8350, as I'm happy with my other PCs. Most recent purchase was the X4 965 *Gasp*Not including a CPU you'd have liked......and then comparing to it illegal lobbying?
You might want to take a step back from the TV
You know there are other things the news it on/in. I don't watch the dummies latten!
Having had a quick look back at old reviews the fx-8350 was rarely in the same ball park as the i7-3770k. It only showed decent performance in very heavily threaded apps. It also tended to use quite a bit more power as well.
The PD chips even struggle to keep up with older phenom's in low threaded apps which to be frank is 95% of the apps people use every day.
As for this review I suspect all systems had a fresh set of results taken using the latest versions of software on hardware they had in house at the time. If they didn't have an fx-8350 system to hand it wouldn't be included in the results
Wowsers! The Core i5 4670K is £200 at many retailers.
The price was already covered in the reviews, I like how Scan are calling them Hazwell
I might go for a cheaper Haswell than I was intending to get :/
Aria seem relatively cheap (and can spell)
Last edited by Willzzz; 02-06-2013 at 01:12 AM.
So looks like ill be sticking with Sandybridge then, very underwhelmed by Haswell. Absolute rip off also
Once you add postage,Aria are not really any cheaper for the CPU.
Dabs,actually had a few Core i5 2500K CPUs for around £130 delivered last week IIRC.
Nice review, but I'm curious; why wasn't the FX-8350 included in the benchmarks?
Where do you get that from? They can turbo up 4 clicks, so can hit 3.9ghz from a base of 3.5.
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