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    Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Overclocked on core and memory and available for £270. What's not to like?
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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    AMD sorta dropped the ball here, allowing these cards to come out before the 480s custom boards and steal its thunder

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Used to trust Hexus reviews. Now believe they are puppets to Nvidia along with a lot of other sites. Disgusting how you cant show off the true capabilities of RX480 under DX12 Vulcan. Plus other DX12 titles. Shame on you.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Genuine question - why is Doom not being run on Vulcan? Both nVIDIA and AMD cards benefit from this, and in the real world I can't think of any real reason that you *wouldn't* use Vulcan given that it improves performance.

    So, why bench it in OpenGL?

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Quote Originally Posted by gingerninja7 View Post
    Genuine question - why is Doom not being run on Vulcan? Both nVIDIA and AMD cards benefit from this, and in the real world I can't think of any real reason that you *wouldn't* use Vulcan given that it improves performance.

    So, why bench it in OpenGL?
    Because Nvidia looks kinda bad on it in comparison. Nvidia gets a very small boost (if any) and AMD gets a huge boost.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Weird. Palit strikes a good balance between cooling and noise on their higher end card, but they choose to focus more on cooling for a card that uses less power.

    Please tell me you can control the fan using utilities like MSI Afterburner or something.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Quote Originally Posted by EzioAs View Post
    Please tell me you can control the fan using utilities like MSI Afterburner or something.
    Yup - the 'Thundermaster' software mentioned in the review is Palit's equivalent.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Quote Originally Posted by Cr@ig View Post
    Used to trust Hexus reviews. Now believe they are puppets to Nvidia along with a lot of other sites. Disgusting how you cant show off the true capabilities of RX480 under DX12 Vulcan. Plus other DX12 titles. Shame on you.
    Could you suggest some suitable games/benchmarks they can run? (that are not equally biased in the other direction)

    From what I have read on other sites, the 1060 performs significantly better in DX11 games, and nearly on parity with DX12 based games. There are a few exceptions on each side where some games are optimised for one architecture over the other (e.g. Hitman for AMD) however if you average it out across the board it's roughly as I say above. AMD may have a slight overall advantage in DX12 but we're talking 2-3fps, so thats close enough to call it parity imo.

    Right now, especially given games that people are currently playing..the 1060 is a better buy than the RX480. It will come down squarely to budget - if you can afford the extra £30 for a 1060 you'd be mad not to do it. if you can't, then the RX480 is still a fine buy and great value for money.

    AMD need to get Vega out there really - until that point, they can't win a performance battle.

    edit: and I think it's too early to say w/r to Vulkan - given that its technically an evolution of AMD's mantle API, and there are only 3-4 games that even have rudimentary support for it yet..I expect thats why Hexus and most other reputable review sites are not bothering yet.
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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    I suspect Hexus haven't changed their Doom benchmark to Vulkan because their pre-existing data is all OpenGL. To maintain compatibility with their existing benchmark results (OpenGL) they need to continue with the same settings. This allows for a nice graph showing the card on test in relation to a large sample of other boards.

    To move to Vulkan would either require a number of other cards to be re-benchmarked to give an accurate data set (which may not be possible if the cards in question are no longer on their possession), or you end up with a tiny subset of cards shown in the Vulkan graph, giving little insight into the relative performance of boards.

    That said, given that id's engines were responsible for most OpenGL use on PCs, and that has now moved to Vulkan, it would seem to be a worthwhile task (re-benching) if possible. Otherwise, a good compromise would be to show a separate Vulkan chart on the Doom page. This would give insight into the OpenGL *and* Vulkan performance, whilst not requiring a lot of re-benchmarking.

    Either way, I doubt this is "Nvidia bias" but rather an (understandable) lethargy in changing the benchmark suite to cover bleeding-edge advances.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Dear world,
    Maybe consider simply buying a second hand 980, for less, with greater performance, instead of this card?
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    It's what I did.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur1814 View Post
    Dear world,
    Maybe consider simply buying a second hand 980, for less, with greater performance, instead of this card?
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    How much did you get your 980 for?

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Isn't it a bit tight to have 'lacks SLi support' in the cons when that is not the fault of Palit? I rather see NVidia's point on this card: The cost of two 1060's would be the same or more than a 1070 which is likely to perform better so why bother? Most consumers probably never even consider SLi anyway.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Quote Originally Posted by cflymo View Post
    Isn't it a bit tight to have 'lacks SLi support' in the cons when that is not the fault of Palit? I rather see NVidia's point on this card: The cost of two 1060's would be the same or more than a 1070 which is likely to perform better so why bother? Most consumers probably never even consider SLi anyway.
    They're not just reviewing Palit's performance, it's an nVidia card too. Palit didn't make the chip or the drivers either, but it'd be a bit of a dull review if they just talked about the box and the cooler with no performance measures

    Two 1060s would probably perform close to 1080 levels, while costing an awful lot less, that's why bother.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Quote Originally Posted by Irien View Post
    Either way, I doubt this is "Nvidia bias" but rather an (understandable) lethargy in changing the benchmark suite to cover bleeding-edge advances.
    Anyone who cares about their performance under Doom and has an AMD card will have switched to Vulkan. Running an AMD card in OpenGL is now only of academic interest, it isn't a sane use case.

    Secondarily Doom under Vulkan is interesting because it is the only decent Vulkan game.

    Really, who wants the OpenGL benchmarks now? They just aren't useful.

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    Re: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super JetStream

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Anyone who cares about their performance under Doom and has an AMD card will have switched to Vulkan. Running an AMD card in OpenGL is now only of academic interest, it isn't a sane use case.

    Secondarily Doom under Vulkan is interesting because it is the only decent Vulkan game.

    Really, who wants the OpenGL benchmarks now? They just aren't useful.
    Given that you admit that Doom is the only "decent" gsme under Vulkan, how can you then say that OpenGL benches aren't useful? I am confused =S

    If all "decent" games, bar Doom, are running OpenGL then surely everyone wants OpenGL benches and will find them useful as the games they will be playing will be using OpenGL and thus they are seeing more relevent data?

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