Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

[spolsh]

Yep, CPU's seem to stay relevant a lot longer these days. Still the incremental increases add up eventually.

[tsolias10]

i7 3770k not overclocked and still doing all. There is no point at the moment to upgrade at all.

[FromUSA]

Intel does not care about AMD. AMD is so far behind. Soon as AMD comes out with something new (if ZEN ever gets here) Intel will blow it away with a new chip. AMD FTL

[jigger]

5ghz with sub 1.4volts for £250 and £100 for an OK Z270 motherboard and I'm interested. Otherwise I'll probably stick with what I have until Zen.

[mapesdhs]

Data point worth noting: scaling for 5GHz (vs. the 4850 they used), the CB R15 score is only 22% higher than my 2700K @ 5GHz, and so far every 2700K I've obtained has run at 5GHz just fine on an ASUS M4E/Z (takes mere minutes to setup). Not really that much better given the amount of time that's gone by since SB. If one needs better threaded performance on the cheap, just bag a used 3930K, they cost diddly these days, though it can be a tad harder to find a suitable mbd. The last 3930K I bought cost just 87.50 (item 262699482618; BIN listings are not much more), for which I also won a top-end ASUS P9X79-E WS for 220. A few months ago I did something similar, won a 4960X for approx. 200, another P9X79-E WS for just over 200.

Sure there's no M.2, but real world differences outside pro tasks are not that significant. 3930K at 4.8 scores 1241 for CB R15.

I'm more interested in picking up a Zen when it's out, though I was saddened to hear that AMD has also jumped into bed with MS to restrict some chip functions to Win10 (I really thought AMD would make Win7 fully supported, that would give Intel a proper thumping).

[=assassin=]

Thanks for the review; I'd love to see how performance in a more demanding game would be, i.e. with an RTS game that is more CPU limited. Perhaps there are more meaningful differences there....

[DanceswithUnix]

Thanks for the review; I'd love to see how performance in a more demanding game would be, i.e. with an RTS game that is more CPU limited. Perhaps there are more meaningful differences there....

Civ, time it for hitting "next turn" 10 times and report the average "seconds per turn". Would need a carefully set up save game as a set starting point.

[Queelis]

civ, time it for hitting "next turn" 10 times and report the average "seconds per turn". Would need a carefully set up save game as a set starting point.

OMG, THIS. Civ VI is getting ridiculous.

[Disputes]

as much of a disappointment the 7 series is what were we expecting there was probably only so much they could do to the existing arch. hopefully this makes it easier for zen to be good so we get competition

[rainman]

I'm more interested in picking up a Zen when it's out, though I was saddened to hear that AMD has also jumped into bed with MS to restrict some chip functions to Win10 (I really thought AMD would make Win7 fully supported, that would give Intel a proper thumping).

Why would anyone releasing a new CPU be interested in supporting an OS that went out of mainstream support almost 2 years ago? It's only on "life support" updates for another 3 years and it's gone ... like Windows 2000 ... or maybe like XP they might extend it some more since it was such a popular OS but seriously, haven't you learned anything yet about persisting with out of support OS's? It's just gonna bite you in the posterior, and with the nature of the threats out there today it's gonna bite hard.

[DanceswithUnix]

... but seriously, haven't you learned anything yet about persisting with out of support OS's? It's just gonna bite you in the posterior, and with the nature of the threats out there today it's gonna bite hard.

I sort of agree, though I find Win10 bites me in the neck so it isn't like there is a good choice. I think one of my first jobs over the Christmas break is to upgrade my Windows 10 install on my little laptop to Linux. Games all require a £200 graphics card these days so there isn't any use for Windows on it anyway.

[nobodyspecial]

When will you start testing vid quality in handbrake (or something) with cpu vs. quicksync. Does Intel's latest have quality stuff in it that fixes the quality loss on older chips when using quicksync or do I still have to turn the gpu off? Anandtech used to test this and comment, but they quit.

[SiliconAudio]

I'm more interested in picking up a Zen when it's out, though I was saddened to hear that AMD has also jumped into bed with MS to restrict some chip functions to Win10 (I really thought AMD would make Win7 fully supported, that would give Intel a proper thumping).

Why would anyone releasing a new CPU be interested in supporting an OS that went out of mainstream support almost 2 years ago? It's only on "life support" updates for another 3 years and it's gone ... like Windows 2000 ... or maybe like XP they might extend it some more since it was such a popular OS but seriously, haven't you learned anything yet about persisting with out of support OS's? It's just gonna bite you in the posterior, and with the nature of the threats out there today it's gonna bite hard.

I would also add that it is not AMD who have not supported their CPUs in Windows 7, it is Microsoft. They would need to make some changes to the kernel to support the new chips and they have said that they are not going to do this for new processors from AMD nor Intel.

So, it's not a case of AMD jumping "into bed" with Intel, as mapesdhs says. I agree with you that it makes no sense to make these changes to an OS that is 2 generations old - even if there is an awful lot of Win 7 still in the corporate environment.

[Queelis]

Well, that definitely was not worth waiting for..

[imadaily]

I just had a good laugh when I saw the price of the 7700k...

£350 for a quad core processor which is less than 50% faster than a i7 2700k from 6 YEARS AGO.

[kompukare]

£350 for a quad core processor which is less than 50% faster than a i7 2700k from 6 YEARS AGO.

I think +50% is being very generous.
The review sites have been very easy on Intel and few have compared Kaby to Sandy at the same frequency.
Did find DigitalFoundry/Eurogamer who compared the KB, SK and SB i5-K at 4.2GHz:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...5-7600k-review
Average of their gaming is +34% vs Sandy Bridge:

The non-gaming average is higher, but some (most) of those benefit from new instructions.
Max overclock has gone up with Kaby Lake vs Skylake (and Broadwell + Haswell), but just gets us back up to what Sandy Bridge managed.
Of course, for someone buying new now Kaby Lake is good.
But for anyone who already has Sandy Bridge or later there is little point even if the new platform has plenty of new features.
No wonder desktop is dying. Years ago I never upgraded unless I could ~x2 the performance for a similar cost. That era is long over.