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    Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    8 cores and 16 threads for £550.
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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    It would be nice for the reviews to compare the real price of buying a new pc built around the cpu... ie when it's combined with a motherboard because intels HEDT motherboards cost more than 'consumer' AM4 boards too which would again make it more expensive to build an intel.

    A quick check on prices show intel x299 boards starting around £250 while amd am4 boards start at around £50, although obviously you'd likely be picking slightly higher priced ones, but thats still a huge extra cost to consider in terms of value. Even if you pick mid range AM4 you can still save £100 which is like 16GB of ram or the next step on a gpu.

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    It would be nice for the reviews to compare the real price of buying a new pc built around the cpu... ie when it's combined with a motherboard because intels HEDT motherboards cost more than 'consumer' AM4 boards too which would again make it more expensive to build an intel.

    A quick check on prices show intel x299 boards starting around £250 while amd am4 boards start at around £50, although obviously you'd likely be picking slightly higher priced ones, but thats still a huge extra cost to consider in terms of value. Even if you pick mid range AM4 you can still save £100 which is like 16GB of ram or the next step on a gpu.
    The review does mention this:

    Quote Originally Posted by hexus
    Of course, opting for any of these new chips means investment in an Intel X299-based motherboard, costing north of £200

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    The review does mention this:
    true but the tables only compare cpu cost and as we all know a cpu is pretty useless without the motherboard and other parts which can be pretty much standardised across both intel and amd. It actually gives quite a distorted picture of value proposition

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    It would be nice for the reviews to compare the real price of buying a new pc built around the cpu... ie when it's combined with a motherboard because intels HEDT motherboards cost more than 'consumer' AM4 boards too which would again make it more expensive to build an intel.

    A quick check on prices show intel x299 boards starting around £250 while amd am4 boards start at around £50, although obviously you'd likely be picking slightly higher priced ones, but thats still a huge extra cost to consider in terms of value. Even if you pick mid range AM4 you can still save £100 which is like 16GB of ram or the next step on a gpu.
    ^^ Agreed

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    I want to see what threadripper does before I speak negatively about intel xD

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Why is 80c an acceptable temperature when OC'ed ? This comment sounds loaded, it's not. I've always been lead to believe that 80c with a custom cooler is way too high, and shows that the chip is breaking far too much of a sweat for the OC applied.

    I run a 2700K at 4.8ghz with 1.3v (I think), and it rarely breaks 65c with an NH-D14. Even that kinda makes me feel uncomfortable, but I came from a 2500 that never broke 50c

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    this review gave me a good laugh. intel new stuff is still overpriced. it did not cost them much to revamp these chips. it just cost them overtime to meet the deadlines. so why are the chips priced so high?? btw the cache excuse is no longer valid for intel.

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Here we start to see what having a competitive market does for the consumer. More choice and better value. Even die hard Intel fans should want a strong AMD in the market.

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Definitely nice to see some competition in the market as ColinP mentions. I've been on the i7-4790K platform for a while now and whilst I want to upgrade to make use of my NVMe drive (got a 512GB Toshiba XG3 for only £102.50 from CeX), I really can't justify the cost as there hasn't been enough of an improvement in the CPU market in the last few years.

    Both Ryzen and this chip seems pretty good but I think Threadripper is going to be the main thing to watch out for for someone like me who both games and does video editing.

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Just a thought - you provide the peak power draw during certain benchmark tests. This in itself isn't entirely useful as it is going to complete these tests faster. I wonder if you could map the power consumption during the test over time for the various CPUs and then calculate a power-time integral for each one. This would give the area under the curve and account for the time it takes to complete the task and see if this offsets the higher power consumption. Bang per Watt is very useful also.

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Isn't it worth comparing the current price of the CPU competition when doing reviews? The launch price of the 1800x was £499 but right now the price is £400 with no sale yet the 7820x is £540, no longer is it 'only' 20% more it's actually 35% which is a huge difference let alone the entire rig cost where the AM4 boards can be significantly cheaper.

    Seems Intel hasn't really reacted positively to Ryzen and it shows how unprepared they were! The new platform structure is abysmal even by Intel's standard. Will be interested to see how threadripper compares to skylake X when it launches!

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    If going to buy a system though or upgrade, it would be stupid to buy Intel though as of current, rather wait a few months and go with what AMD has to offer.

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    Isn't it worth comparing the current price of the CPU competition when doing reviews? The launch price of the 1800x was £499 but right now the price is £400 with no sale yet the 7820x is £540, no longer is it 'only' 20% more it's actually 35% which is a huge difference let alone the entire rig cost where the AM4 boards can be significantly cheaper.

    Seems Intel hasn't really reacted positively to Ryzen and it shows how unprepared they were! The new platform structure is abysmal even by Intel's standard. Will be interested to see how threadripper compares to skylake X when it launches!
    Hi there,

    Prices tend to change quite quickly, so levelling the playing field the best we can, we look at the official pricing from both companies. AMD says that it has instigated no price-drop on the Ryzen 7 1800X, and that it is retailers who have chosen to reduce cost, but I see your point.

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    Re: Intel Core i7-7820X (14nm Skylake-X)

    Platform costs are a real kicker for Intel. I don't know how much of it is down to a genuine cost of the chipset manufacturing, artificial cost of the chipsets to the board makers, or a premium added by the board makers. When Intel was the only way to get top end performance then the premium price for a motherboard could be justified that way, but doubling the cost of a motherboard for comparable system performance isn't going to win many customers.

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