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    Acer Swift 3

    AMD Ryzen 5 2500U in a 15.6in laptop priced at £700.
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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Just out of interest, does Hexus do benchmarks with all the bloatware a-bloating or do you remove / disable it? Obviously most of the stuff isn't going to matter that much but, for example, Norton running in the background could certainly affect results.

    Whenever I buy a laptop (for myself or someone else) the first thing that happens is the bloatware is removed to the extent possible (some of it is useful) so for me a benchmark without any bloat is useful. That said, how many of your average consumers go through start up options and disable stuff? And isn't the selection/implementation of software as important to assess as the hardware? It's a hard balance to strike and I wonder how Hexus do it (I can't see in the review but my brain is all mushy at the moment).

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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    Just out of interest, does Hexus do benchmarks with all the bloatware a-bloating or do you remove / disable it? Obviously most of the stuff isn't going to matter that much but, for example, Norton running in the background could certainly affect results.
    We benchmark the laptops with all of the out-the-box software intact, as this is representative of the manufacturer's design, though we do check all available updates are applied.

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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    The 940MX is basically the MX130 so people know it's modern equivalent. Having said that the IGP scores look a little low compared to the 940MX/MX130 from memory.

    Also what driver version is this?


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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    It appears that this is a solid outing if a little uninspired (Like Acer to be fair). Tweaks will happen, battery life is fairly poor but I'd still enjoy 6 hours away from the mains as my current laptop is like 8 years old.... not because I haven't thought about upgrading but have no real need at moment
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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    It appears that this is a solid outing if a little uninspired (Like Acer to be fair). Tweaks will happen, battery life is fairly poor but I'd still enjoy 6 hours away from the mains as my current laptop is like 8 years old.... not because I haven't thought about upgrading but have no real need at moment
    Driver support has been very poor though. For yonks AMD didn't bother updating the mobile APU drivers. Then some tech YouTubers like TechEpiphany forced dGPU drivers and it worked fine with large performance jumps in games.I honestly hope they have updated the drivers now since the desktop versions launched!


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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    It appears that this is a solid outing if a little uninspired (Like Acer to be fair). Tweaks will happen, battery life is fairly poor but I'd still enjoy 6 hours away from the mains as my current laptop is like 8 years old.... not because I haven't thought about upgrading but have no real need at moment
    Driver support has been very poor though. For yonks AMD didn't bother updating the mobile APU drivers. Then some tech YouTubers like TechEpiphany forced dGPU drivers and it worked fine with large performance jumps in games.I honestly hope they have updated the drivers now since the desktop versions launched!
    All their laptop CPUs have been low end chips. Nothing in a laptop worth more than £500. I expect to see better driver support with these higher end CPUs that are easily going to outperform sales of their previous laptop CPUs, particularly those E chips, they sucked!

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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Wozza365 View Post
    All their laptop CPUs have been low end chips. Nothing in a laptop worth more than £500. I expect to see better driver support with these higher end CPUs that are easily going to outperform sales of their previous laptop CPUs, particularly those E chips, they sucked!
    What was weird is that channel used Vega56/Vega64 drivers and forced it to work on the APU and it was fine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B6FlUA9PKI

    Look at the performance jump!! I assume with the desktop model it should be fine?

    Edit!!

    LOLWTFBBQ:

    https://support.amd.com/en-us/download

    You look for the mobile APUs,and there are no drivers for the Ryzen 5 2500U and Ryzen 7 2700U.

    Also checked Acer:

    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/conten...oduct/7487?b=1

    Date:

    2017/12/25

    Version:

    9.0.000.8

    Vendor:

    AMD

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    554.6 MB
    The latest drivers for the desktop APU are last month.


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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Aye updates work much better when they update themselves, think it's because they're not signed properly yet so Windows won't auto update them. The drivers supplied aren't generic last time I looked so it's a bit of a mess
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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Aye updates work much better when they update themselves, think it's because they're not signed properly yet so Windows won't auto update them. The drivers supplied aren't generic last time I looked so it's a bit of a mess
    I just expanded the install packages. On the AMD website the desktop APUs have a driver date of 03/02/2018 and the latest ones on the Acer website are 24/11/2017.

    I really hope that Windows has updated the drivers to something from this year,otherwise the laptops will be having drivers a few months out of date!


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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Beating the spin 5 in cinebench and handbrake is notable - the swift 3 is going up against intel core for core and thread for thread, and still winning. That's probably the 25% higher base clocks overpowering the IPC advantage. Going by the power consumption figures, I'd also suspect that the swift 3 has cranked up the power to the 25W TDP on the AMD laptop.

    This doesn't explain the poor battery life of course, unless the power management is non-existent - maybe AMD mispredicted the best codecs to include in the GPU fixed function block?

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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    Beating the spin 5 in cinebench and handbrake is notable - the swift 3 is going up against intel core for core and thread for thread, and still winning. That's probably the 25% higher base clocks overpowering the IPC advantage. Going by the power consumption figures, I'd also suspect that the swift 3 has cranked up the power to the 25W TDP on the AMD laptop.

    This doesn't explain the poor battery life of course, unless the power management is non-existent - maybe AMD mispredicted the best codecs to include in the GPU fixed function block?
    All the RR laptops tested so far have very high idle power consumption,and even desktop Ryzen upto a degree seems to have higher idle power draw.



    Hardware.fr measured 12V ATX and 230V AC power consumption:

    https://www.hardware.fr/articles/973...tique-cpu.html

    I assume unlike desktop the 940MX switches itself off for the most part when the system is idle.
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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    It's only got a 45w psu as well...it's not going to have a huge battery pack compared to a lot of the other laptops in that range that all have 65w psu's. I'd guess it's configured at 25w with a slightly smaller battery giving 6 hours ish real battery life. Intel do have the lead in ultimate power saving if they're configured down that way
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    Its weird that we haven't seen ryzen in custom laptops like clevo ones yet.
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    Its weird that we haven't seen ryzen in custom laptops like clevo ones yet.
    Asus made two models with desktop Ryzen CPUs.


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    Re: Acer Swift 3

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Asus made two models with desktop Ryzen CPUs.
    Considering you get a proper am4 socket on ryzen laptops it would be nice to see some clevo ones(I just love their designs).
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