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    Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    The fastest consumer SSD in the world?
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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Its 5 times more expensive per GB than a Samsung 860!

    You could get a Core i5 8400,motherboard,16GB of decent RAM and a 500GB SSD for the price of the 480GB model.

    I am not sure how many normal consumers would be buying this outside a few high end enthusiasts. Only people using their systems for generating income could justify this as a business expense,and I assume for commercial use there are different lines made by Intel?
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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Its 5 times more expensive per GB than a Samsung 860!

    You could get a Core i5 8400,motherboard,16GB of decent RAM and a 500GB SSD for the price of the 480GB model.

    I am not sure how many normal consumers would be buying this outside a few high end enthusiasts. Only people using their systems for generating income could justify this as a business expense,and I assume for commercial use there are different lines made by Intel?
    The same demographic that buy Geforce Titans despite the minimal gaming improvements over the next (much cheaper,) tier down.

    There's always someone who MUST have the fastest, no matter what the cost ot whether they actually need it.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    I think it's a statement of technology more than a mass-selling product.

    Sure, it's very expensive, but one would hope that over time and economies of scale would reduce the cost-per-GB significantly.

    It's always good to see new, better tech coming to market, in my opinion.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    The same demographic that buy Geforce Titans despite the minimal gaming improvements over the next (much cheaper,) tier down.

    There's always someone who MUST have the fastest, no matter what the cost ot whether they actually need it.
    But that is a niche even amongst high end enthusiasts - on tech forums you see far more GTX1080 and GTX1080TI owners. Even then 480GB is not massive looking at the increasing sizes of modern games. I would rather have a "slow" 2TB SSD for the same price TBH.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarinder View Post
    I think it's a statement of technology more than a mass-selling product.

    Sure, it's very expensive, but one would hope that over time and economies of scale would reduce the cost-per-GB significantly.

    It's always good to see new, better tech coming to market, in my opinion.
    Technologically its impressive,but since Intel and Micron developed the technology together,I hardly see them pushing each other too much,unless more companies decided to produce it in larger quantities.

    With NAND,the multitude of companies helped drop prices,but even then,prices are still barely reaching what they were in late 2015 and 2016. I could have got a 750GB Crucial SSD for £110 in 2016. For the average person,capacity is more an issue,especially with games getting bigger and bigger. Its probably why so many systems still ship with spinny disks and only have relatively smallish boot drives.
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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    I wouldn't put games on it, but as an OS and cache drive it'd be lovely.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Interesting article on the reg with Micron saying that 3D Xpoint sales to Intel have collapsed. Intel may not be shifting these in the numbers it hoped.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/0...nt_sales_down/

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Compare this with 0.1ms for good, old main computer memory.
    Whoah, 1960's calling, they want their 10KHz clocked magnetic core memory back

    Not sure what figure you were going for there.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I wouldn't put games on it, but as an OS and cache drive it'd be lovely.
    exactly right..it's hardly for streaming 1080p films from.
    I've got a 900 sat in front of me and the glorious engineering of the case alone makes me smile. Intel know their storage solutions.

    I still have an old 80GB intel drive (which I DO use for games) and it's very old now and hasn't missed a beat.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Over £500 for a 480gb drive? Are they crazy?
    Only an idiot would buy it.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmaheid View Post
    Over £500 for a 480gb drive? Are they crazy?
    Only an idiot would buy it.
    I think you're looking at the price out of context and therefore in isolation. Sure, it's damn expensive compared to a NAND-based SSD, but as a boot drive for a system equipped with a Core i7-7980XE or Threadripper and GTX 1080 Ti, the price isn't mad. 32GB of high-end DDR4 is getting close to this mutch.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmaheid View Post
    Over £500 for a 480gb drive? Are they crazy?
    Only an idiot would buy it.
    That depends what the intended use is.

    If I am putting together a high end relational database server for work, and I have already budgeted £5k for a mid range server with lots of ram and a decent server class CPU, then adding another grand for 900Gb of very speedy storage looks like a good idea.

    The write speed of a relational database is dominated by the speed of long term storage, especially on transactions that join lots of tables or have many constraints. Anything that will make that sort of thing faster is a good thing.

    Having said that, I would be buying the PCI card version, not this strange hacked up M.2 interface.

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanoe View Post
    Interesting article on the reg with Micron saying that 3D Xpoint sales to Intel have collapsed. Intel may not be shifting these in the numbers it hoped.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/0...nt_sales_down/
    Falling XPoint sales

    Micron's storage business unit (SBU), with SSD revenue now more than half of its revenues, pulled in $1.1bn, up a relatively low 13 per cent. Micron said this reflected a shift of NAND supply to high-value mobile managed NAND.

    In the earnings call, SVP and CFO Dave Zisner said: "This shift in NAND supply and lower 3D XPoint sales to our partner resulted in a 9 per cent sequential decline in our Storage Business Unit revenue."

    He added: "We sold very little of 3D XPoint to our partner [Intel]."

    The CFO added it was possible that there would be zero sales of the product to Intel in the current (fourth) quarter, answering a question to a Credit Suisse MD: "Assuming that we do not sell any 3D XPoint to our partner... [which] I wouldn’t rule.. out."

    For Micron, XPoint has been a disappointment because Intel hasn't sold enough Optane product. So much so that Mehrotra said: "We have been discussing the commercial terms of our future-generation 3D XPoint collaboration [with Intel]."

    The CEO added: "We will provide updates as appropriate as these discussions progress further."

    Micron still intends to introduce its first XPoint products in late calendar 2019, with meaningful revenue in 2020. That's five years after Intel introduced XPoint technology.
    Crikey,its taken 5 years to get to this pricing level?


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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarinder View Post
    I think you're looking at the price out of context and therefore in isolation. Sure, it's damn expensive compared to a NAND-based SSD, but as a boot drive for a system equipped with a Core i7-7980XE or Threadripper and GTX 1080 Ti, the price isn't mad. 32GB of high-end DDR4 is getting close to this mutch.
    Compared to five NAND SSDs of the same capacity though, which you could put in a raid 0 or 5 stripe giving you way more capacity and a crazy aggregate IOPs figure?

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    I'd find it hard to justify the cost to myself, the wife would have me sectioned...

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    Re: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (480GB)

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Compare this with 0.1ms for good, old main computer memory.
    Not sure what figure you were going for there.
    Almost certainly 0.1 microseconds. I have no idea what the Unicode point for a greek letter mu is though! I'd normally fudge it with a u.

    EDIT: and I note that the article's actually been updated already... *doh*

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