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OK,what memory modules do these use - Hynix,Micron or Samsung?? Samsung also make other chips too.
Also do these have the Corsair module lottery?? A lot of their other DDR4 kits,have three variants - each of which corresponds to Hynix,Micron or Samsung. This is usually indicated by a version number on the RAM itself or the packaging.
From the timings it's very unlikely that its samsung. I'm pretty sure I've seen cl 16 ddr4 at 3600mhz that were samsungs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
Not even E-die?? Well,still would be useful to know if the module lottery still exists though!! If not I don't see the point of buying these for a Ryzen based build.Quote:
Originally Posted by outwar6010
I can't seem to find out what they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
Yeah,me neither - RAM reviews need to list the modules being used,and in the case of Corsair RAM,whether there is only variant of the RAM or different versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by outwar6010
I think we need to give these companies lines like they do children. In a language they may understand.
0 A=0
10 PRINT "My PC is not a brothel"
20 LET A=A+1
30 IF A = 100 THEN GO 50
40 GO 10
50 Now let there be an END to this RGB madness.
(It's been a while since I did any coding (read: about 20 years) so hopefully I've made a fool of myself. In BASIC.
I would happily support such an initiative.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
This is Samsung B-die as far as I can tell. I see in the pic that shows the serial # that it's ver. 4.31... That's what Corsair designates as B-die, I'm too new to link urls but it's explained in Corsairs Memory forum.
The timings are silly loose though, if I had to guess, it's to give them wiggle room to switch these kits out with Hynix further down the road when availability demands it, as they've done in the past. I wish the reviewer had tried tightening the timing to confirm, instead of just overclocking the overall MHz but oh well.
I bought a kit of these today, they are Ver4.31. I have a kit of Corsair LPX 3600C16 also Ver4.31 = Samsung 8Gbit B-die. In testing they can boot 3866MHz 12-12-12-28-1T on X299 OC Formula with i7-7740x, so that confirms the IC type.
Great Hardware, but please don't promote the software as being a "Premium config utility" when it hardly works with a lot of Corsair products and is extremely buggy, just go to their forums and see for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by HEXUS
Regards
The thing is, memory manufacturers change the ICs over time. If it is Samsung B-die this time, it might be Hynix next time, and they can change without notice.
I believe we have to review as is, basing conclusions on the quoted speed and timings rather than, at that very time, the underlying ICs.
But we appreciate that enthusiast want to know information like this, so we'll prise off the heatspreaders and let you know which ICs are underneath.
These do, in fact, use Samsung B-die chips. After the advices in this thread, I've removed the heatspreader and found them lurking underneath. Article has been updated.
https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/201...43f565fed8.jpg
Thanks for looking!
Corsair uses the same numbering system for DDR4 as DDR3. Google "Corsair DDR3 Inquiry" to find a thread on Corsair's forums that decodes their version numbering. x.3x would be 1024Mx8. In this case, Corsair DDR4 that is Ver4.31 will always be Samsung K4A8G085WB. I have a kit of these myself and managed 3866C12 on an X299 board with an 7740x bench stable. This kit is really hard to clock due to the PCB layout.
Next time just take a look at the version number on the label. 3.xx is Micron, 4.xx is Samsung, 5.xx is Hynix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarinder
E-Die are only 4Gb ICs so 4GB Single rank or 8GB Dual rank modules. For 8Gb ICs Samsung B and C are the dies.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
samsung.com/semiconductor/dram/ddr4
Scan have just dropped the price of this RAM in the DDR4 Vengeance RGB 3000MHz to £158.99 for the 2x8 16GB kits...stunned and just picked up a set..