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    Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    Super timing from the green team.
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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    £475 for what is roughly 1080Ti performance is fair. nvidia really salted me with how they did the 2000 series, giving the same performance for the same price on a new card. Costs to produce, and squeezing in tensor cores was a factor, but the consumer doesn't really care about that, all they hear is "you're not getting a boost in performance for about the same or a bit more money" and it was infuriating.

    However this is all only coming about because AMD are threatening their position, and they're not gonna do anything for the higher end. With nothing threatening the 2080 and the 2080Ti, they have no incentive to lower costs.

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    Hexus tries to excuse the pricing of the 2060 super by saying it's cheaper than the 2070 was. Really? It's still cut down more than a 2070 as well.

    Ditto the 2070 super. Hexus say: "Both partner and FE cards will be available from $499, of course, representing a serious pricing cut a year in. " Which of course, is baloney - in the paragraph above you've just said the 2070 was $499 on release. If you're comparing it to the 2080 then all the Hexus results show it's slower than a 2080, so why would you say it's a serious price cut?

    Quote Originally Posted by hexus
    Bottom line: The GeForce RTX Super cards bring a dollop more performance for the same money.
    Your own results don't show that. They show they either bring more performance for more money, or less performance for less money.

    The last thing consumers need when prices are increasing are comments from reviewers making light of it.

    (but credit to nvida - these look like well-rounded cards, the improvement in min frame rates is very interesting)
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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    Underwhelming to say the least for the RTX 2060 Super but let's see what AMD have in store with Navi before making a final decision. Currently it seems that the RTX 2070 Super is the "better" deal.

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    I'm happy to persevere with my 1080ti for now and let the dust settle on the pricing and reviews of the new cards

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    So are this all the chips that didn't made it be proper 2070 and 2080 chips?

    So basically trash, that nVidia is selling like Super version? They are so good at marketing.
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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    I view the original RTX 2070 as more of an overpriced RTX 2060 variant seeing as they're both from the TU106 die. I regard the new RTX 2070 Super as the real RTX 2070, which has been AWOL until now, as it's from the same TU104 die as the 2080.

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    It's difficult to tell (for us, Nvidia & review sites,) just how good or bad these are until the Radeon launch.

    Keeping my powder dry till then.

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    For the love of god AMD, copy NV pricing tactics. You want ASP's moving up, and giving people reasons to say, yeah, I can afford a few more bucks for all that "better stuff/specs/perf/watts/noise" etc. I buy winners 9/10 times, no loyalty to any company Loyal to my wallet, and body (you'll light on fire after a few hours of gaming in AZ with the wrong hardware...LOL). Many newer houses here, sadly weren't built with zoned air (how is this possible today? ROFL).

    @darcotech - The trouble with that is, we judge perf/watts/heat/noise, not which die is in which cards. I have no care how big your die is at all, as long as it wins what I play/use game/app wise.

    Sell all the trash you want that beats the competition, as in that case, trash is the best you can buy...LOL Is it backwards day for you today? Trash is top performing hardware today? Everyone doesn't get a trophy in semi See income statements for all involved.

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    What I've found interesting is that the pricing for the standard RTX 2080FE has increased in pricing by £200, not fallen to somewhere between the RTX 2080 Super and the RTX 2070 Super pricing. The RTX 2080 Super pricing is actually pretty decent, it's £669.00, which is lower than the pricing of the RTX 2080FE at launch (£749.00).

    I don't know if it's a mistake with the pricing on their website, or if it's intentional, but it doesn't make sense for the RTX 2080FE to be more expensive than the RTX 2080 Super. The RTX 2060 / 2070 Super pricing looks pretty good at £379.00 / £475.00, shame they don't come with NVLink options.

    Edit: Not Nvidia selling direct, which explains the price.

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    Can't see even a 2080 super will tempt me to upgrade my 1080TI yet! I'm still going to wait for the next generation cards.

    But at least the pricing of these new cards is a bit more tempting for others as an upgrade path.
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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    If you can get a good discount on a 2060 super I would say that would be the better deal. 2070 super looks good too. No way are any of these prices worth it though. I would need a $200-$350 discount before even thinking about it. I have been saying that the 2060 should of had 8GB anyway. The specs are pretty good. It's the price that ruins the whole line up. I would say without a discount, go for an AMD videocard. Get an 580, v56, v64. Or until the radeon 7 comes down by $300-$400. The 5000 series from AMD is coming out too. Those prices aren't that amazing either. So the old line up still applies. I also want to start seeing 16GB DDR6/HMB2/3 cards getting some sun light.
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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    Is it crazy for me to hope that nvidia releases an RTX card that manages 1080p60fps with DXR for less than £400?

    I, like the vast majority of people, have a pretty decent 1080p monitor and I'm happy with it.
    I feel like paying £400+ [for a graphics card] to game at 1080p is duuuumb

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    Did i miss it or are there no RTX benchmarks?

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    RTX benchmarks, does anybody use RTX?

    It's a shame that 4K gaming is yet again still a generation or two away. Most of these benchmarks the 2070 Super (why it's not just called Ti is beyond me), still isn't cranking 60fps reliably at 4K.

    I'm not sure what settings are used for these games, but my aging 970 SLI setup doesn't fair much worse with a few tweaks to the settings to cater for the VRAM limit. I want to upgrade, but this still feels lack-luster.

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    Re: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    , still isn't cranking 60fps reliably at 4K.
    Now everyone has access to Freesync, that 60fps floor got a whole lot softer so I'm not convinced it matters.

    I presume most people are driving high resolution or multiple monitors with these cards, even the cheap ones laugh at 1080p these days.

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