AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

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Originally Posted by The Hand

I'm glad my gigabyte B350 is supporting the Ryzen 3000 series, so at least I'll have some sort upgrade path(a cheap 3700X maybe in 2020/21) if they don't support the Ryzen 4000 series next year. A cheerful upgrade from a 2400G that would be.

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Same with the Asrock B350's too. Good stuff.

I think it is mainly the A320m boards that are going to be 1st and 2nd gen ryzen only, though I heard MSI trying to imply they weren't going to support some of their B350 boards on 3rd ryzen I think, though will have to check on that. I think AMD might have had a word with them since then anyway so not sure if that is still the case.

Could come down to the individual board - Asrock have 5 out of their 6 A320m's listed as supporting the new cpu's, which surprised me. Their one that doesn't support it is a thin mini-itx.

That's impressive then, Asrock seem pretty good support wise. I wouldn't be surprised if Asrock B350 boards got Ryzen 4000 series support then.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Jon

Could come down to the individual board - Asrock have 5 out of their 6 A320m's listed as supporting the new cpu's, which surprised me. Their one that doesn't support it is a thin mini-itx.

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Is it the A320M Pro4?

I own one, and no matter how many times I updated the BIOS it would not properly run my 2400G. It's currently homeless in its antistatic bag.
The MSI B450 micro ATX board I replaced it with worked like a charm..

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Originally Posted by Ozaron

Is it the A320M Pro4?

I own one, and no matter how many times I updated the BIOS it would not properly run my 2400G. It's currently homeless in its antistatic bag.
The MSI B450 micro ATX board I replaced it with worked like a charm..

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A320M Pro 4 gets them: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320M%...dex.us.asp#CPU

I was going to get one of these but then I heard about the performance of Mark Zuckerberg. Apparently, his chip is also on an AM4 socket so I'm going to get me one of him, pop his chip out and put it into my PC.

Will let you know how he benches.

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Originally Posted by azrael-

Wasn't there talk of the 3000 series needing at least a 400 series chipset?

EDIT: I was thinking of this. But on re-reading it it doesn't specifically say it won't work.

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There was talk, and CPU support now seems to be all over the place. Old A8 & A10 etc APUs with construction cores are being dropped from support in new BIOSes for older boards to support newer chips. X570 boards might not have support for 1000 series Zen CPUs. It seems to be down to how much flash space there is for the BIOS, my X470 has a 32MB bios chip so perhaps lower end boards only have 16MB if they are dropping so much support? I have yet to see anything from Asus to say the X470-Pro that I have is compatible with 3000 series, which I suppose I should have expected. Asus have always done nice boards but lousy support.

Interesting Amazon components top sellers list atm, you have to really dig for Intel chips:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Seller...rs_1_computers


Apparently these chips do not boot modern Linux distributions: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...0x-linux&num=2

For me that's a huge problem. Amazon haven't shipped my order yet, so I am very tempted to cancel. That would give me more time to read further reviews and see if the 3700X is really my best choice, but Amazon seem to be building up a waiting list of backorders so if I re-ordered straight away it would be another week before I got a CPU. Also I can't fit the chip until Monday, and there could well be a fix by then.

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Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix

Interesting Amazon components top sellers list atm, you have to really dig for Intel chips:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Seller...rs_1_computers

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A bit of shiny-new effect going on probably given people who wanted Intel could have already bought it before this week. Overclockers are discounting some intel chips but I've not seen the same from Scan or Amazon, so perhaps Intel are *still* having supply issues.

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Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix

Apparently these chips do not boot modern Linux distributions: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...0x-linux&num=2

For me that's a huge problem. Amazon haven't shipped my order yet, so I am very tempted to cancel. That would give me more time to read further reviews and see if the 3700X is really my best choice, but Amazon seem to be building up a waiting list of backorders so if I re-ordered straight away it would be another week before I got a CPU. Also I can't fit the chip until Monday, and there could well be a fix by then.

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Check Level1 forums, Wendel did a launch day piece on Linux support and got almost everything working in the end.

I was expecting Intel demand to be fairly flat. Could well be selection bias, perhaps sales at the likes of Dell aren't impacted.

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Originally Posted by Kanoe

Check Level1 forums, Wendel did a launch day piece on Linux support and got almost everything working in the end.

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Ooh many thanks. So it boots if I boot into Windows first. That's horrible, but I think I can live with that until a fix turns up.

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Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix

Interesting Amazon components top sellers list atm, you have to really dig for Intel chips:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Seller...rs_1_computers

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2600/2600X also doing well. It's interesting to see the 3700X and 3900X so high in the rankings, maybe an effect of the particular chips AMD seeded to reviewers?

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Originally Posted by Roobubba

As I'm not earning at the moment - doing solo indie game dev - I'm having to wait before I upgrade my old i5 4670K. To see these leaps and bounds from AMD makes me very happy indeed, they're really pushing intel hard right now. Reminds me of the old Althon days - that competition led directly to the Core series from Intel.

As a content creator who games and isn't on a wage right now, the Bang4Buck, multithreaded and single-core performance all matter a lot to me. AMD right now are slaying it. Great to see.

Good times for consumers await.

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It's going to be great once intel actually starts competing with AMD again, and AMD has to start pushing more cores further down the product stack to compete

so I plan on buying a new gaming rig. this a good pick?
this is cheaper than intel, right?

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Originally Posted by Xlucine

It's interesting to see the 3700X and 3900X so high in the rankings, maybe an effect of the particular chips AMD seeded to reviewers?

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That might be part of it. As someone who has ordered a 3700X, the obvious choice for me would have been a 3600X but I figured the extra couple of cores would be nice and I have no performance data too tell me the 3600X is a better buy.

It is sort of against my principles to buy a 65W part, but the 3700X is expensive enough already and seems highly capable.

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Originally Posted by hariken07

so I plan on buying a new gaming rig. this a good pick?
this is cheaper than intel, right?

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I would wholeheartedly recommend you the 3700X. It's pretty-much 9900K performance for 9700K money. The X570 motherboards are quite expensive at the moment but PCI Express 4.0 might just be worth having in a year or two.