Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    28,686
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1,859 times in 635 posts

    EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    Competent, but feels pricey.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland
    Posts
    272
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    20 times in 11 posts

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    So basically, if you do not "need" ray tracing, go for 5700 XT. And save some money.
    The more you live, less you die. More you play, more you die. Isn't it great.

  3. #3
    Long member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    1,325
    Thanks
    54
    Thanked
    243 times in 172 posts
    • philehidiot's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Father's bored
      • CPU:
      • Cockroach brain V0.1
      • Memory:
      • Innebriated, unwritten
      • Storage:
      • Big Yellow Self Storage
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Semi chewed Crayola Mega Pack
      • PSU:
      • 20KW single phase direct grid supply
      • Case:
      • Closed, Open, Cold
      • Operating System:
      • Cockroach
      • Monitor(s):
      • The mental health nurses
      • Internet:
      • Please.

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by darcotech View Post
    So basically, if you do not "need" ray tracing, go for 5700 XT. And save some money.
    Yeh, I suspect that where the 5700XT is positioned high enough to attract serious gamers but low enough to mean they'd be willing to replace it in a year or so when ray tracing becomes a real thing. So they'll not bother with the 2070 because who knows how it'll perform in ray tracing but they'll save nearly £150 and buy the AMD card, knowing the savings will allow them to upgrade sooner once the RTX tech and market has stabilised.

    You ask me how much I'll pay for a GPU and £600 for the top end is it (and I expect that to last 5 years or so with decent FPS). £400 I expect decent performance but maybe not so much longevity. The 2070 here is nearly £600 and the AMD card is available for under £400. I feel the AMD card is pitched relatively sensibly in the market but Nvidia are trying to gouge on ray tracing and I'm sorry, but it's not there yet. We may well get software based ray tracing which performs nearly as well, as demonstrated by Crytech, making the extra (substantial) investment in an RTX capable card worthless.

    On top of that I just am not gaming as much as I'd like (too many games have annoyed me with either things trying to push me into microtransactions (Far Cry) or poor programming for PC in favour of consoles (COD)) given the investment I've made in my GPU. I strongly suspect I'll be going to plan b next time which is where my 4K monitor is used at 1080P in games as it should just turn one pixel into four and work perfectly well.

  4. #4
    I really don't care Dashers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    942
    Thanks
    31
    Thanked
    110 times in 91 posts
    • Dashers's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7-5930K
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR4 3000 Quad
      • Storage:
      • Intel 750 PCIe SSD; RAID-0 x2 Samsung 840 EVO; RAID-0 x2 WD Black; RAID-0 x2 Crucial MX500
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 x2 SLI
      • PSU:
      • CoolerMaster Silent Pro M2 720W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 500R
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Philips 40" 4K AMVA + 23.5" 1080 IPS 72Hz OC
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTTC

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    These prices are frankly laughable.

    As a nvidia fan-boy, I can't see any reason why anybody would buy this over a 5700XT at these prices. Ray-tracing is too much of a performance hit - if you want high framerates, even at average resolutions you can't use ray-tracing unless of course, you drop some other graphics settings, but if you're not wanting the graphics to look the best they can, why use ray tracing?

  5. #5
    Long member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    1,325
    Thanks
    54
    Thanked
    243 times in 172 posts
    • philehidiot's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Father's bored
      • CPU:
      • Cockroach brain V0.1
      • Memory:
      • Innebriated, unwritten
      • Storage:
      • Big Yellow Self Storage
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Semi chewed Crayola Mega Pack
      • PSU:
      • 20KW single phase direct grid supply
      • Case:
      • Closed, Open, Cold
      • Operating System:
      • Cockroach
      • Monitor(s):
      • The mental health nurses
      • Internet:
      • Please.

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    These prices are frankly laughable.

    As a nvidia fan-boy, I can't see any reason why anybody would buy this over a 5700XT at these prices. Ray-tracing is too much of a performance hit - if you want high framerates, even at average resolutions you can't use ray-tracing unless of course, you drop some other graphics settings, but if you're not wanting the graphics to look the best they can, why use ray tracing?
    10 print "Recursive error."
    Go 10 until head$="caved in against the wall".


    Yeh, it's a total mess. I suspect software level raytracing will come out and there will be some hardware acceleration from these cards but, from what I've seen, this will be "hardware acceleration" in that they'll code it to slow down if you don't have the hardware.

  6. #6
    I really don't care Dashers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    942
    Thanks
    31
    Thanked
    110 times in 91 posts
    • Dashers's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7-5930K
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR4 3000 Quad
      • Storage:
      • Intel 750 PCIe SSD; RAID-0 x2 Samsung 840 EVO; RAID-0 x2 WD Black; RAID-0 x2 Crucial MX500
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 x2 SLI
      • PSU:
      • CoolerMaster Silent Pro M2 720W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 500R
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Philips 40" 4K AMVA + 23.5" 1080 IPS 72Hz OC
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTTC

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    I can't be the only person who'd rather buttery smooth framerates at high resolutions and refresh rates before more flare. I mean, there are some games that you love to play for the visual feast, but they're few and far between as we largely play games for gameplay.

  7. #7
    Long member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    1,325
    Thanks
    54
    Thanked
    243 times in 172 posts
    • philehidiot's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Father's bored
      • CPU:
      • Cockroach brain V0.1
      • Memory:
      • Innebriated, unwritten
      • Storage:
      • Big Yellow Self Storage
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Semi chewed Crayola Mega Pack
      • PSU:
      • 20KW single phase direct grid supply
      • Case:
      • Closed, Open, Cold
      • Operating System:
      • Cockroach
      • Monitor(s):
      • The mental health nurses
      • Internet:
      • Please.

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    I can't be the only person who'd rather buttery smooth framerates at high resolutions and refresh rates before more flare. I mean, there are some games that you love to play for the visual feast, but they're few and far between as we largely play games for gameplay.
    Why do I still like Freelancer? It had meh graphics when it came out, never mind now. Deus Ex is still a good game despite graphics. Sometimes it feels like they've forgotten this. I was having this same conversation with someone at work today about how CS:S was a fine game for many years past its sell by date as it had good core gameplay, not graphical excellence at its core. This was copied over to CS:GO where they kept high FPS, accessibility with mediocre hardware and gameplay at the fore, before graphics.

  8. #8
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    10,001
    Thanks
    496
    Thanked
    1,032 times in 876 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB 3200MHz
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Linux, 1TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 30 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Samsung 2343BW 2048x1152
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb/20Mb VDSL

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    I can't be the only person who'd rather buttery smooth framerates at high resolutions and refresh rates before more flare. I mean, there are some games that you love to play for the visual feast, but they're few and far between as we largely play games for gameplay.
    I largely play Elite Dangerous for the joy of chasing NPC pirates around an asteroid belt and blowing them up where frame rate is key, but there are occasions where I just find myself staring at the view. I wonder if real space would be a disappointment compared to what people have imagined

  9. #9
    I really don't care Dashers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    942
    Thanks
    31
    Thanked
    110 times in 91 posts
    • Dashers's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7-5930K
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR4 3000 Quad
      • Storage:
      • Intel 750 PCIe SSD; RAID-0 x2 Samsung 840 EVO; RAID-0 x2 WD Black; RAID-0 x2 Crucial MX500
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 x2 SLI
      • PSU:
      • CoolerMaster Silent Pro M2 720W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 500R
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Philips 40" 4K AMVA + 23.5" 1080 IPS 72Hz OC
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTTC

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    To be fair though, ED isn't the most graphically heavy game outside of dock - it's mostly the skybox!

    I did mining on my 40" 4K, was getting acceptable framerates and I have to say, it looked stunning - and I will also admit, I'd love to see that game given some RTX love - but yeah, most games we don't play just for eye candy

  10. #10
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    10,001
    Thanks
    496
    Thanked
    1,032 times in 876 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB 3200MHz
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Linux, 1TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 30 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Samsung 2343BW 2048x1152
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb/20Mb VDSL

    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super XC Gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    To be fair though, ED isn't the most graphically heavy game outside of dock - it's mostly the skybox!
    The Oculus Rift does up the requirements somewhat, but also the immersion. I hadn't played for a while, and just looking around the Krait's cockpit gave me the widest grin. That was before heading out to the nearby hi-res to dogfight around the asteroids

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •