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    CTS 2005: Saitek, cool in bloo

    There, on display were two of my favourite, and so far untested, bits of Saitek magic, the X52 joystick and throttle system and the Saitek PC Gaming Keyboard. Now anyone who’d into their flight sims will already know of the X52 as this is the much anticipated update to the X45 flight stick system.

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    I have t3h bl00 keyboard, and it is really nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuzgib
    I have t3h bl00 keyboard, and it is really nice
    I had one calling my name @ work and my boss kept dangling it in front of me and then chanting " you know you want it.."

    So far I have resisted but maybe... maybe I'll give in and get the X-52 and dabble in IL2

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    My only major quibble is that the letters don't illuminate, but it looks like they've got that in hand:

    http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/eclipse.htm

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    As a formerly happy owner of a saitek x36, and a currently pissed off owner of a saitek x45, I am rather underwhelmed with the x52.

    Saiteks top of the line sticks seem to get more gimmicky and less functinal with every incarnation.

    The X36 was a GREAT joystick. It had no large vertical tention spring, but a thick rubber gasket that provided much more delcate cond even control. The X45s spring was annoying, but even worse was the fricttion between the piece of plastic the spring sat on and the bases of the joystick. The X36 needed no dead zone, the X45 needed a rather large one casue the stick has some play blefore it even hits the plastic the tenstion spring is sitting on. So, you have virtually no resistance for a small movement, but move a bit more and the resitance ncreases drastically. Even reistance is the key, the X36 had this. The only down side to the X36 was the relative fragility of the gasket, mine eventually cracked and made the stick unuseable.

    The X52 seems more like the x45 than x36. It may indeed be better than the X45, due to the lighter spring, but I don't think it will be good enough for me to really consider it. That spring has got to go.

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    Why on earth didn't they use multi-coloured LEDs? For a teeny tiny extra cost per LED could they have had a single red or green or blue keyboard solution.
    I got a red lighted keyboard off of ebay and am a bit concerned that it might be drawing a lot of juice from the USB, so I was looking forward to the Saitek Eclipse, until I found out that it is blue - I've got to have red to go with my curtains!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snedger
    Why on earth didn't they use multi-coloured LEDs? For a teeny tiny extra cost per LED could they have had a single red or green or blue keyboard solution.
    They aren't standard LEDs.

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    Saitek have sent an X52 to me for review, and as a previous X35 and X45 owner, I think I'll be able to make a fair judgement of it.

    I ahve to say that the X35 wasn't all that marvellous as sticks go... the drivers and software had some serious flaws... Anyone remember the sticky key issue? Or the total loss of keyboard use at random moments? Or the failure of your machine to boot id you had 'halt on keyboard error' set up in bios?

    Thankfully, Saitek have sorted out their drivers and programming software for the X45. I agree, the X45 spring was way too stiff... I cabled tied mine up to loosen it off. At first glance, the X52s spring is MUCH lighter... Saitek say that they developed this stick in line with feedback from fans of the sticks, so we'll see what its like.

    According to the manual it has a zero contact deadzone, so maybe thsi will remove the deadzone problem altogether (which I totally agree was a problem on the X45).

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    Buff,

    They aren't standard LEDs.
    Cheers for that ! but I already knew multicoloured leds weren't standard! A bit like a lighted keyboard isn't standard.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    Saitek have sent an X52 to me for review, and as a previous X35 and X45 owner, I think I'll be able to make a fair judgement of it.

    I ahve to say that the X35 wasn't all that marvellous as sticks go... the drivers and software had some serious flaws... Anyone remember the sticky key issue? Or the total loss of keyboard use at random moments? Or the failure of your machine to boot id you had 'halt on keyboard error' set up in bios?

    Thankfully, Saitek have sorted out their drivers and programming software for the X45. I agree, the X45 spring was way too stiff... I cabled tied mine up to loosen it off. At first glance, the X52s spring is MUCH lighter... Saitek say that they developed this stick in line with feedback from fans of the sticks, so we'll see what its like.

    According to the manual it has a zero contact deadzone, so maybe thsi will remove the deadzone problem altogether (which I totally agree was a problem on the X45).
    Honestly, I never had any real driver problems with my X36.

    If they did fix the dead zone on the x52, I may be willing to give it a dry. That was by far my biggest gripe about the x45.

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    Any news on this review Nick?
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