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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    This is the internet. Every answer is the definitive answer
    Well, true. Until the next "expert" comments.

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    It has - milk first (for tea) milk last for coffee (if you have milk)

    end of
    utter dross

    milk first wont work if you dont know how strong the tea is or if it's a tea bag.

    nothing worse than milky tea.

    MIF > TIF

    that's a fact


    NOW... if you want me to point you to a Paul Burrell or Guy Martin quote to confuse the entire debacle, getting into mixtures or emulsiions... I can

    but lets face actual facts in front of us: if it's loose tea in a proper silver tea pot, having brewed in a proper English country home, with a serving person about to Downton-me-up.... I'll go milk in first if the butler wants to buttle me that way. I'll not fight the old boy. Because it's his tea/train set. Have I been for afternoon tea? Oh yes! Is it worth it... OH YES!

    But in a cold portacabin, with a kettle, milk out on the door step cos it's cold and there aint no fridge, and a quality tea bag... water in... leave to stand for 30 seconds cos it's a cold portacabin, (not a minute in a warm home) then bag in.. stir the water and DO NOT squeeze the bag in the process... keep stirring... milk in... keep stirring.. allowing the FLAVOUR as well as the colour to infuse.. and then more milk if needed.

    Coffee and milk.... who nother thing.

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    utter dross

    milk first wont work if you dont know how strong the tea is or if it's a tea bag.

    nothing worse than milky tea.

    MIF > TIF

    that's a fact


    NOW... if you want me to point you to a Paul Burrell or Guy Martin quote to confuse the entire debacle, getting into mixtures or emulsiions... I can

    but lets face actual facts in front of us: if it's loose tea in a proper silver tea pot, having brewed in a proper English country home, with a serving person about to Downton-me-up.... I'll go milk in first if the butler wants to buttle me that way. I'll not fight the old boy. Because it's his tea/train set. Have I been for afternoon tea? Oh yes! Is it worth it... OH YES!

    But in a cold portacabin, with a kettle, milk out on the door step cos it's cold and there aint no fridge, and a quality tea bag... water in... leave to stand for 30 seconds cos it's a cold portacabin, (not a minute in a warm home) then bag in.. stir the water and DO NOT squeeze the bag in the process... keep stirring... milk in... keep stirring.. allowing the FLAVOUR as well as the colour to infuse.. and then more milk if needed.

    Coffee and milk.... who nother thing.
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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    I hate it when you sit on the fence!
    Especially when you fall off.

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    my bottom has no creosoted splinters .. as you all know.. the fence and my posterior are strangers

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    Re: Tea!

    No-one has cream in their heated beverages, then?

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    No-one has cream in their heated beverages, then?
    Only if poured over the back of a silver teaspoon

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    It has - milk first (for tea) milk last for coffee (if you have milk)

    end of
    Funny you mention this because I just tried a few coffees at home (not espressos, mind you) and whether or not the power of suggestion was at play I genuinely thought they had a nice flavour. Having read the bit about scalding the milk by pouring it into boiling water that seemed to make sense - since the factor in question is milk being affected by a vessel full of hot water.

    Of course, I believe it's been said that the last thing you want is boiling water onto coffee - but I don't understand how that work for espressos where you're putting steaming hot water through the machine (or am I wrong?). As for milk, though, I can certainly attest to the naffness of buying a coffee somewhere and watching them overheat the milk and pour an awful cup of java.
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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by Galant View Post
    but I don't understand how that work for espressos where you're putting steaming hot water through the machine (or am I wrong?).
    My little stovetop thing pushes steam through the coffee, not hot water. The water in the pan below boils and the steam builds up pressure until it finds it's way up through a mesh and through the coffee, before venting out the top of that compartment, through the chimney and down into the upper section where it condenses into a very warm liquid.

    Dunno if that makes a difference but it never tastes like burnt mud, the way cafetiere does...

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    Re: Tea!

    With espresso the water temperature is below boiling point, ideally 90°C to 96°C , home espresso machines tens to have t temperature settings, one to make the coffee, and a higher temperature to steam the milk, more pricey models have 2 boilers.

    Brewed coffee should be at a similar temperature, water shouldnt be boiling when you pour it over the coffee. People that are into brewed coffee use kettles that maintain the water at a set temperature that is below boiling.

    ttaskmaster, if your using a moka stove top pot, then your not using steam through the coffee , its hot water. The bottom compartment becomes pressurised when heated and the increase in pressure pushes the water up the funnel and through the coffee. Thats why the funnel sits below the water level.




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    Re: Tea!

    I should have had tea.
    Been up since 2:30am supporting some software changes going live.
    Forgot that I've not drunk coffee for some weeks - 2 pints, four teaspoons of Rocket Fuel coffee, (coffee with guarana) has rather upset my system - was otherwise detained when a 5:45am conference call was called.

    Anyway, Yorkshire tea bag - in cup with water - I like tea strong, so by the time I've taken the bag out and put the milk in, the liquid is not hot enough to scald the milk. Only problem is that water is not hot enough to dissolve stevia sweeteners and I frequently accidentally take a mouthful of both undissolved sweeteners which is not pleasant.
    Need another coffee, but don't need the consequences enough to actually go ahead and make one.

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by snedger View Post
    ... four teaspoons of Rocket Fuel coffee, (coffee with guarana) ...
    Yeek!

    When I got my first office job I decided to buy some Rocket Fuel - without reading the label properly - on the basis that I might as well have some nice strong coffee to get me through the day. Problem is, not having had an office job before, I didn't realise how much coffee I'd drink while at work.

    About a week later I started getting jittery about 7pm every weekday evening. About a week after that I looked at my Rocket Fuel label and spotted that it had guarana in as well, and hence was essentially double caffeinated. And so realised that I was suffering caffeine withdrawal on a daily basis! The Rocket Fuel got put in the drawer for "emergencies" and I bought some ordinary instant for daily consumption....

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by Flibb View Post
    ttaskmaster, if your using a moka stove top pot, then your not using steam through the coffee , its hot water. The bottom compartment becomes pressurised when heated and the increase in pressure pushes the water up the funnel and through the coffee. Thats why the funnel sits below the water level.
    Okies, fair enough. Good to know.
    I just put the stuff in, switched the hob on and wait. Never thought to look into how it works!

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mucka View Post
    Espresso over tea everytime
    That sounds like a terrible combination.

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    Re: Tea!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    ... Never thought to look into how it works!
    I suspect most people don't

    AFAIK this is how drip filter machines work too, in essence. The water flows from the reservoir into a small boil chamber, where the pressure created by the boiling water forces it up through a tube to the top of the machine and over the coffee grinds. All very interesting stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    That sounds like a terrible combination.
    I've had reports from people who have, at conferences and other such occasions, put a teabag into their mug then accidentally used the wrong "dalek" pot and squirted coffee onto it instead of hot water. They confirm that it's every bit as bad as you might imagine....

    Then again, as with pretty much anything, I'm sure there's someone out there who thinks - or at least claims - it tastes delicious. There's nowt as queer as folk, as they say...

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    Re: Tea!

    And just after I say it...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-...nd-tea-hybrid/

    Are you a coffee person or a tea person? If you're struggling to pick between the two, this new hybrid drink is for you.

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