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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    @DG my MSN is in my profile. Drop me a line tonight if you're still struggling - should be home around 6.30

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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    @DG my MSN is in my profile. Drop me a line tonight if you're still struggling - should be home around 6.30
    Yeah I am/ was struggling.

    I had a blue screen last night so decided to go up to the latest BIOS.
    Still the 6Gb RAM seen as installed, 4Gb usable continues.
    Noticed that the BIOS does only see 4Gb RAM installed, so could it be a memory remap issue or does this point back to hardware damage/ fault?

    On the other hand, the BIOS updates did fix another problem I was having.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Can you screenshot for us this 4GB usable?

    what do you see in the BIOS.

    Also remember at the LAN you can partake in some of the best technical support known to man, espesually if I've been drinking.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    hmm give me five minutes, will have to remote onto the machine from work.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    http://img121.imageshack.us/i/****pc.jpg/

    The BIOS says it see's 4Gb im beginning to lean towards what ive seen on the net about it being a possible bent pin issue.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Ok, here are my thoughts in no particular order

    Voltage levels? Might be worth bumping them very slightly for the memory, increasing the timings in case its just having a little issue there.

    Take out all the memory, put it back in the first slot, try all sticks in that, see if that works, then all sticks in the second slot and so forth.

    This way, if you have a bent pin, or dud stick it should show itself by not booting, if all sticks fail in one slot, its a dud slot (bent pin, damaged CPU pad, duff mobo etc), if one stick fails in all slots, then its the RAM, if one stick fails in one slot then its probably the RAM been fusy and the motherboard been a dick, you can probably fix that by timings and memory voltage, maybe.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Hmm I will need to know/ find which voltages to increase as I havent really messed with that stuff in a BIOS before.

    Cheers though mate
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Just had another BSOD, this time after an hour or two of use.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    If someone could point as to what voltages to increase I will test this tonight

    After googling im guessing I will see a setting in the BIOS for QPI/Vtt?
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Maybe lets try re-seating the memory sticks and come back to the memory voltage bit later.

    Overvolting memory can perminantly damage your computer, and is an affront to god.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    When you updated BIOS, did you reload optimised defaults (not 'failsafe' or whatever)?

    If it's bend pins then sometimes loosening the HSF can help - what HSF are you using?

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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    <snip>if one stick fails in one slot then its probably the RAM been fusy and the motherboard been a dick, you can probably fix that by timings and memory voltage, maybe.
    Aaah yes, the infamous fussy RAM/dickish motherboard error

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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    When you updated BIOS, did you reload optimised defaults (not 'failsafe' or whatever)?

    If it's bend pins then sometimes loosening the HSF can help - what HSF are you using?
    I think I did for the one but forgot for the others, will test tonight.

    At the moment the stock one due to money

    Will also reseat the RAM tonight.
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    @ Splash - added
    Oh what fun and *naughty word* games ive had tonight.
    Was remoted into PC from work, all day, I had one BSOD so removed some Gigabyte crud from the system and didnt have a BSOD for ~6 hours.
    Got home and reseated the RAM, system boots, 2Gb, hmm power off, leave for few seconds and reseat RAM, still 2Gb seen. Fiddled somemore, now the system refused to boot into Windows, missing dll file...great!
    Tried usual stuff, wouldnt work, disconnected SSD to make sure it hadn't failed, got a message saying boot device not found.
    Reattached and rebooted, windows boots, 4Gb Ram seen.
    So turned off, single stick = boot 2Gb
    Second stick = boot 4Gb
    Third stick = no boot

    Queue angry swearing noises.

    Turned off system and rebooted, no boot. Turned off, left for few seconds, tried again, booted with 4Gb.

    Did more investigation: -

    RAM in white slots = boot
    RAM in blue slots = no boot
    RAM in working white, blue and working white = no boot


    So, if the PC makes it too and through LAN its going back to SCAN for testing and such as I'm about ready to use it as a door stop!
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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    have you checked the cpu socket pins are all aligned?

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    Re: Windows 7 see's 6Gb RAM, 4 usable

    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbedguy View Post
    Did more investigation: -

    RAM in white slots = boot
    RAM in blue slots = no boot
    RAM in working white, blue and working white = no boot
    That's the normal slot layout restrictions - even described in the manual

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