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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Would be interesting to know how HWMonitor Calculates / Derives / Measures it.

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Yeah I'd quite like to know that. I'm thinking it might either have a DB of CPUs and just uses that + CPU clock/voltage to estimate the power or maybe motherboards have a power monitor built in, just not much software uses it?

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    I think it's calculated, rather than measured. It doesn't vary under load. You wouldn't expect it to remain constant.

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Yeah, IBT would draw more than 7zip for example but this isn't shown in HWMonitor. I have measured a difference with a power meter, on the other hand...

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    anyone know if any of these are back in stock has everywere i looked other day have sold out or the wrong core,
    would love to be able to afford an upgrade on my athlon 240
    currently have a ga-m720-us3 which will unlock cores

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Still listed as in stock on MD:

    http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Pr...-64-Socket-AM2

    and in both their shops.

    Still not sure about the stepping though but if you're near Manchester (or know someone who is) it might be worth calling in and asking if you can check.

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Are you sure its the right one has they are athlon 64 and not athlon II

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    cpu world reckons that's a 45nm 2.3GHz processor, which would be right... doesn't mean it'll unlock though

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    A BIOS update on my GA-870A-UD3 meant that my previous overclock had difficulty with warm POST. I've gone back to systematically raising the hypertransport frequency and adding volts when needed.

    This chip and board together are surprising me. Just running at over 3GHz with all voltages manually set to stock.

    Will be interesting to see where it ends up. The gigabyte board like a much better fit with the chip.

    Edit: further testing has me surprised. It will now do 3.1ghz on stock volts (1.15) IBT 20x standard stable. Beyond that it all goes to pot. Something significant has changed with this F5a BIOS and I've not worked out what it is yet.
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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Just an update.

    Having issues with RAM dividers and timings on this Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3, so it's difficult to reach the heights I was getting on the Jetway board. I have had the CPU up to just short of 3.6GHz on BIOS F2 but it's in no way stable up there and I'm pretty sure that RAM is the limiting factor. Updating the BIOS to F5A has pushed my max bus speed down a fair bit.

    Having said that, the 8+2 Phase VRMs and current BIOS seems to be doing the CPU some favours. As a quad it'll now do 3.1 GHz on stock (1.15v) no problem. Currently running 3.3GHz on the cores at 1.2v and just under 2.3GHz on the CPU-NB at stock volts. That'll take 20x IBT on high.

    RAM is running at 1148 mhz C7 on x4 divider. If I try to loosen the timings I'm in no-post territory. The current BIOS needs higher RAM volts for this bus speed if approaching DDR3-1600 C9 on x5.33 divider (I was getting an easy 296 bus on BIOS F2 but can't get over 290 with F5A).



    Edit: Just thought I'd mention - yes I am running 4 sticks of RAM.

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    I've been a bit quiet on Hexus lately but just thought I'd update. The CPU's still going strong as Phenom FX 5200+ X4 @ 3.3 GHz rock stable, cool and quiet, using pretty much the same settings as the previous post. I never did go back to the RMAd Jetway board though and still running the Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3. Still very impressive for a £30 CPU bought 3 years ago.
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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Good to see you back, and nice to hear that you're still running the unlocked chip! That's a massive bargain, sad I didn't pick one up now! (well, kinda, but I'm pretty happy with my 905e and a low profile 7750 ). How're you keeping otherwise? Bought any shiny new tech in the intervening time, or just sat pretty knowing you'd picked up one of the best bargains of the last decade?

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    Well I don't find as much time to tinker with tech these days. 2nd child pretty much put paid to that.

    My 4 year old has recently started playing games on the PC with me. Recently found Grid 2 (bought for split screen multiplayer) drops a few fps on Max settings at 1920*1200 so that's the first time in years I've thought about a GPU upgrade.

    As for shiny new tech, not much aside from Tablets and phones. I think my Xiaomi Mi2S phone and Asus T100ta were pretty good value for what they are but nothing compared to that CPU.

    Edit: I actually did upgrade the PC a couple of weeks back. Added a £35 Sandisk Readycache SSD. Incredibly easy upgrade - just plug in and install drivers - and it made a huge difference to boootup time and system responsiveness. I'd recommend one to anyone with an old W7 PC without a SSD as a cheap and quick upgrade. No need to clone anything or reinstall anything. Just plug in and play.
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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    The machine that had mine in it ended up being upgraded to a 955BE, and an accident squished some of the pins on the 5200+

    I still have it, and will have to spend a long evening with the tweezers putting them straight.

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    5 year check in...

    It's done me proud. Ordered the PC version of Everybody's Gone To The Rapture and it's the first PC game where I'm really scraping the bottom of the minimum spec requirments. We'll see how it runs.

    Not a bad innings for a 5 year old £30 CPU. But it's days are perhaps numbered. There are a few games where minimum framerates are getting to the lower end of what I find acceptable. And under Windows 7 the rig was always rock stable but in Windows 10 I've been getting the odd freeze in games (after which it takes an inordinately long time to reboot even with a SSD). Perhaps it needs a clean install (this was an upgrade), maybe it's the lack of Win 10 updates for the motherboard or maybe the 50% bus overclock has begun to take its toll?

    In any case - nothing seems like a good value upgrade. I want another £30 CPU that will last me 5-6 years.

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    Re: Athlon X2 5200+ 45nm 2.3GHz AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200

    I'd definitely try a clean in stall of Win 10 - it could just be some underlying driver issue due to the upgrade. Also worth remembering that DX12 has a lower CPU overhead than DX11 so - if it lasts that long - the quad core might start coming back into its own as more games start using DX12.

    As to value, the FM2+ Athlon X4 845 at £50 is probably my pick of the bunch at the minute; it's a harvested Carrizo chip so it's the latest revision of the bulldozer design (excavator). Can't see there ever being another processor that's as good value as the 5200+ though - it really was a one off.

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