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    'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    I'm thinking of updating my current HTPC, which is based on an AMD 4850e CPU & mATX 780G platform. I'd like to go to a low-power ITX motherboard setup, as for convenience I like to keep the system on 'standby' 24/7, with the ability to 'wake up' the PC using a standard USB Windows Media Centre IR remote. I can't do this with my current system, because it does not support the required 'wake on USB' feature. Can anyone suggest an ITX mobo (preferably AMD) that supports WOUSB? The only one I've found so far is an obsolete Zotax board, and an Intel (own brand) board for socket 1155. Any advice would be much appreciated

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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    Wow. I had no idea boards were released not supporting this over the last few years. It's quite an old feature!

    I guess it could be BIOS dependant, but all modern chipsets should support it. I know it's not of any use, but all my 755 board support it, my Atom ION based system and both the i7 systems.

    Isn't it more of a case of finding one that doesn't support it, as opposed to does?

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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

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    Wow. I had no idea boards were released not supporting this over the last few years. It's quite an old feature!

    I guess it could be BIOS dependant, but all modern chipsets should support it. I know it's not of any use, but all my 755 board support it, my Atom ION based system and both the i7 systems.

    Isn't it more of a case of finding one that doesn't support it, as opposed to does?

    I enjoy HTPCs too, so it's a question which interests me!
    Well, maybe I've just been unlucky with the boards I've checked in the past, but just out of curiosity I just checked the manual for my most recent system which uses an Asus P8Z77-V mobo. It supports BIOS options for power-on by PCI, power-on by PCIe, power-on by ring (via COM port), and power-on by RTC (internal clock). So no mention of power-on by USB. Is it really as ubiquitous a feature as you suggest?

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    Do you think you could let me know the model numbers for the motherboards you know support power-on USB? I'm curious to look up their instruction manuals to see what they say Many thanks!
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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    check in device manager if the device is allowed to wake the computer too (rclick->properties->power management)
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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    Thanks for the tip - I'll have to wait until I get home tonight to check this. But if it's not an option in the BIOS, I assume it's not supported?

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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    Certainly - but it will be when I'm back home.

    Not that I have anything directly against ASUS (I have several of their products), but their BIOS have always been lacking. It wouldn't surprise me if they had left it out.
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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    I just noticed in your sig, Dangel, that you're using an MCE remote with your HTPC...is it a USB device, & do you use it to wake up your PC from standby? Just curious

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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    It's very complicated sometimes. I recall with a Zotac ITX board I was interested in, maybe 9300 or something like that, we had to wait for 3 or 4 revisions until they put in support for WOUSB.

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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbobgod1969 View Post
    I just noticed in your sig, Dangel, that you're using an MCE remote with your HTPC...is it a USB device, & do you use it to wake up your PC from standby? Just curious
    Yeah I am - it works fine - it's the official MS remote (the 1039) and IR Receiver. I've had two different boards (both ASUS) which have worked fine with it.

    There are two levels to it - first the device needs to remain powered when the PC sleeps, second it must be allowed to wake the PC. By default I think they normally are.
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    Certainly - but it will be when I'm back home.

    Not that I have anything directly against ASUS (I have several of their products), but their BIOS have always been lacking. It wouldn't surprise me if they had left it out.
    Thanks for that, much appreciated As I mentioned in my original post, I've looked at quite a few ITX motherboards from many different manufacturers, & haven't found many that mention support for wake on USB, Asus or otherwise. Asus boards are generally my preference though: all three of my PCs are based on them, and (in my experience at least), their stability has been second to none. Of course if I found a board from another tier one or two manufacturer with the right features, I'd happily go with them instead

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    Yeah I am - it works fine - it's the official MS remote (the 1039) and IR Receiver. I've had two different boards (both ASUS) which have worked fine with it.

    There are two levels to it - first the device needs to remain powered when the PC sleeps, second it must be allowed to wake the PC. By default I think they normally are.
    Thanks for the info, I'll definitely be checking it out later on. My remote is a cheapy MCE compatible one I bought ages ago on eBay, so that might be the source of the problem. Do you mind me asking the model number of the Asus mobo you use in your HTPC? All my PCs are Asus, but none will power on using the remote at present. Maybe the solution is as simple as buying a proper Microsoft remote, which would be great!

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    It's very complicated sometimes. I recall with a Zotac ITX board I was interested in, maybe 9300 or something like that, we had to wait for 3 or 4 revisions until they put in support for WOUSB.
    This is what I thought - I read an Anandtech review of a Zotac board which mention these revisions. But it might be my MCE remote which is the problem, so I'll report back my findings once I can check it out

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    Re: 'Wake on USB' facility on ITX motherboard for HTPC

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbobgod1969 View Post
    Thanks for the info, I'll definitely be checking it out later on. My remote is a cheapy MCE compatible one I bought ages ago on eBay, so that might be the source of the problem. Do you mind me asking the model number of the Asus mobo you use in your HTPC? All my PCs are Asus, but none will power on using the remote at present. Maybe the solution is as simple as buying a proper Microsoft remote, which would be great!
    Offhand I... can't remember the model - I'd have to double-check(!) Does your IR receiver have a light indicating when it's got an IR signal (i.e. when you press a button)? Or if you plug in some charging device (like a phone) to a USB port does it charge when in sleep? Both show if the port physically has power y'see.
    Worth checking that before spending money - the bad news (and lots of people hate this bit) is that the original 1039 remote is no longer made by MS (this is annoying as it has a TV power button which you could reprogram). The sequel to it (for Vista) lacked that button. No idea if MS still make remotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Offhand I... can't remember the model - I'd have to double-check(!) Does your IR receiver have a light indicating when it's got an IR signal (i.e. when you press a button)? Or if you plug in some charging device (like a phone) to a USB port does it charge when in sleep? Both show if the port physically has power y'see.
    Worth checking that before spending money - the bad news (and lots of people hate this bit) is that the original 1039 remote is no longer made by MS (this is annoying as it has a TV power button which you could reprogram). The sequel to it (for Vista) lacked that button. No idea if MS still make remotes.
    There's definitely no light on the receiver when a button is pressed on the remote. As for power to the USB ports when in standby, I'll have to check later on, I'm afraid. Hmm...that would just be my luck if the remote I need is no longer available though. I'll do some Googling I think!

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    Success! My remote resumed the PC from standby once I ticked the appropriate box in device manager as suggested by Dangel Thanks ever so much everyone for all your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbobgod1969 View Post
    Success! My remote resumed the PC from standby once I ticked the appropriate box in device manager as suggested by Dangel Thanks ever so much everyone for all your help!
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