Is the A6 for another build?
Is the A6 for another build?
PiMan314 (16-12-2012)
You don't need to go that much cheaper
An i5 3470 is a good choice, you save £30 on the CPU, £60 on the water cooling and can save further on the MB as well, so around £120 saving and it's just as good as a 3570k at stock clocks (irl).
PiMan314 (16-12-2012)
I have no idea what the A6 is. I presented it as an idea for replacing the i5 but have since learned that is uhh.... moving on ~~
I have decided on the AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz Processor - looks awesome as far as I can tell. £71, £100 cheaper than some values for the i5 at £170.
EDIT: I TOTALLY knew there was an i5 3470....
*quick searches*
Nonono!
As I said above, stick with an i5, most of the saving won't come from the actual CPU itself, but the fact that without overclocking you no longer need the fancy watercooling and the fancy motherboard.
Saving £120 there would allow you to get a 7970 if you wanted which is basically the fastest single graphics card there is.
PiMan314 (16-12-2012)
You had an A6-5400K before you edited the post!!
If you really want to push the cost down,you can get a Core i5 3350P for around £133:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel...dmi-69w-retail
PiMan314 (16-12-2012)
Long story short - I thought it was a CPU, got confused about definitions of APU's - took it out, figured out it was some sort of CPU (not sure of difference between APU and CPU entirely) - and saw A8 was closer specs to what I desired!!!
XD
Welcome to the wonderful whirling rollercoaster of my brain
I'll ask this instead of searching seeing as it's probably faster:
Can i5 3470 and 3350P be overclocked? Only reason I ask is for fun - just want to try it :3
The Core i5 CPUs have some extra multiplier settings due to Turbo,but since bus overclocking is very limited with new Intel chips,the increase in reality is not that big. Moreover,you still need to spend more on a suitable motherboard if you want overclocking. Sadly the days of £50 Intel motherboards being overclocking capable are far behind us.
PiMan314 (16-12-2012)
Ahhh phooey. That's a little annoying.
So realistically is there going to ever be any point in buying a watercooling system for this build? Cause it would be cool and quiet, and really cool! But would it be useful or have a reason to be done other than noise reduction?
An i5 at stock is never going to be noticeably noisy even with the stock cooler.
The choice seems to be do I want a cool hobby overclocking a CPU or do I want a kick ass gaming machine?
PiMan - about your 2nd post. If your getting a 3570k it really makes sense to get a Z77 chipset board. These have native PCI 3.0 and USB 3.0. These are really good to have. USB because files are getting larger and so are USB stick, and the extra speeds are very useful for backing up essential files etc. PCI 3 will help get the best of GPUs if you upgrade in the future, PCI 2 is already causing some bottlenecking with top end cards (i.e. HD 7990), so for future-proofing sake its worth getting.
The phenom X4-955 will be significantly slower than a 3570k.
KeyboardDenons build is a good place to start. But I'd swap the PSU for this (850W is a huge overkill): http://www.scan.co.uk/products/450w-...n-atx-v231-psu
And swap the SSD for this (mSATA drive are much slower than standard SSDs): http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120gb...-cache-85k-iop
Also, If you look at my 'Desktop' build below, my requirements were v.similar to yours and mine came in for under £800.
If you swap my 3770k for a 3570k, you can also get the Asus PA238Q monitor (which is astoundingly good) and you should stick to below your £900 budget.
Desktop: P8Z77-V -l- i7-3770k @ 4.2Ghz -l- Hyper212 EVO -l- 8GB Corsair Dominator -l- XFX HD6950 2GB -l- 128GB Samsung 830 -l- 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7,200.12 -l- Corsair Carbide 300R -l- XFX Pro 450W -l- Gigabyte M6800 -l- Microsoft Keyboard -l- Windows 8
Laptop: HP Pavillion DV-3 4050 -l- i5-M450 -l- 4GB -l- 500GB Hitachi TravelStar -l- Windows 7
Audio: Denon M38DAB -l- Mission MX1 -l- QED Reference Inter-connectors -l- Creative Megaworks THX 5.1 550
Headphones: AKG K450
TVs/Monitors: Asus PA238Q -l- LG 22" Flatron -l- Philips 27" LCD
PiMan314 (17-12-2012)
Even the very cheapest S1155 mb has USB3, SATA3 and PCIe3:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-b...ata6g-vga-hdmi
PiMan314 (17-12-2012)
The thread seems to have moved on quite a bit and taken a few twisty turns here and there! Phew... I'm having trouble keeping up.
We seem to be talking about 3470s and lower, as far as I know only the 3570k will let you overclock it, non-K models don't have this option. Even if you don't want to overclock immediately it is worth having the feature should you want to later.
The four core Phenom II CPUs are a good option for budget builds but if you want a high performance gaming rig the i5 option is easily significantly better.
This is why this forum is so good, I was under the impression that the Ivy Bridge CPUs would really steam ahead when working with faster RAM so when I read this it surprised me, to check this I ran a test with my RAM set to 1600mhz instead of 1866mhz. I was expecting to see a massive drop in performance, but I didn't see that at all. The test results when I ran 3d Mark 2011 were within 15 points of my results when I ran the test with my RAM at 1866mhz. Take a look at this, the slightly higher figure is with my RAM at 1600mhz.
However when I bought my RAM it was cheaper to get 1866 than it was for 1600mhz as it was on an offer, if I could do it now I would go with low profile 1600mhz RAM like this instead leaving you an extra £10 for an after market cooler.
I suggested the SSD to use it in the SRT (Intel Smart Response) mode, which allows you to install your OS on the hard drive and then use a software solution to copy the most frequently accessed applications and data to the SSD giving you performance where you need without having to balance how you use the space on a high performance SSD drive and a standard hdd as this will now be taken care of for you (or the OP in this case).
PiMan314 (17-12-2012)
SRT is redundant now that SSD are so cheap.
I like the idea of using the SSD to speed up the loading of the computer.
Damnit willzzz I want both!! Kickass and fun xD
ANYhow - after working on this all day nonstop, this is what I've come up with so far:
https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/sho...edBaskets.aspx
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case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/BitFenix-Mer.../dp/B005JRICNG
Needs work (will look into tomorrow):
-soundcard, not sure on which to get?
-cooling system, fans I think - water later if desired ~~ not sure if the fan is loud or silent yet, or if I would need 2 or 3 idk - will try figure this out tomorrow.
Operating system is taken care of (windows 7) thank's to family having a spare - and I will get the keyboard in a store because I have a thing about how they have to sound
The mobo there has everything I need. The RAM looks good, the graphics card is bomb, the hard drive... well I don't really know of the quality (what do you guys think/know??) but it's big enough. That SSD is as expensive as I'm willing to go on one so it will have to do - seems reliable.
I don't know much about screen's but after a lot of reading up online this seems like a fairly good one for the money (I don't want to spend heaps on it/much more than 140).
Night night peeps,
Thanks so much for the help!
The saved basket can only be seen by you!!
Either take a screenshot or post the links to the parts!!
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