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    Is this motherboard ideal for using high end performance parts such as; gtx 770, 8350 and a modxtreme 600w power supply?

    Currently, I have this motherboard and was wondering if I should keep with it or upgrade...

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    No. I would get a better motherboard.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    In case you are tempted, from the Asrock site:

    - Support up to 95W Socket AM3+ processors

    The 8350 will fry the VRM circuitry as it is 125W.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    What the hell?! my friend told me it would work!

    He was using his 8320 with the MOBO and he didnt have poroblems?
    Last edited by robowski; 04-07-2013 at 10:51 AM.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    TDP is a maximum limit - doesn't mean the processor will necessarily hit it, nor that the motherboard can't cope with it in the short term. It'll just be that the motherboard isn't certified for it so *could* fail if you happen to hit (and possibly sustain) a load on the CPU that causes it to use that much power. Given that in most cases people don't run their CPUs all the time at 100% load you should be fine, but I wouldn't be overclocking or doing too many stress tests.

    But if you get the choice, get a better motherboard.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

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    What the hell?! my friend told me it would work!
    There's a big difference between something "working", and something being advisable, or sustainable.

    Sure, you can stick an 8350 in the board and it'll "work", but how long for and to what extent it would stress the board is something else entirely.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    There is a list of supported processors.

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68-VS3%20FX/?cat=CPU

    The FX-6300 is on that list and should be safe. That's a nice part, if you want to keep the motherboard I'm sure it would give you a nice system.

    As Kalniel says, the TDP is a design rule not what the CPU actually does. An 8320 might pull 100W (I have no idea) but it is outside the 95W class so they call it 125W. You could get away with that for ages, it is only a few percent over. The 8350 is a faster part though, I really wouldn't want to see one on a 95W board.

    I run a board rated for overclocking 140W cpus. I don't do that, so it really isn't stressed running a stock 125W cpu and should last many years without those random reboots of a stressed system.

    There are other issues, the chipset won't talk to the CPU at the full speed that the CPU can manage because the Hypertransport bus has been updated in modern designs. The SATA ports will not keep up with a modern SSD. These things aren't so important, but if you pay for top components you want to get the best from them.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    I wouldn't stick even an FX6300 in it TBH,as the motherboard only uses a 3+1 phase VRM,and one of the AsRock 3+1 phase VRM designs had issues with FM2 CPUs.

    If you are going to spend £300+ on a GTX770 and £150+ on a FX8350,I think skimping on the motherboard is not a good idea.

    It might be a better idea to get a reasonable motherboard and get a slightly cheaper graphics card and CPU.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    What motherboard would be recommended for me then?! with a budge under 100.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    Does it need to be micro ATX, or can it be full sized?

    Much easier to find a full size one atm. I went for Asus M5A97 EVO R2, which as long as you don't want crossfire/SLI seemed a good choice.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    What's the difference between the micro atm and full sized? apart from the sizes obviously

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    It should be just size.

    Sadly the marketing people seem to think of uATX as "it has integrated graphics" and ATX as "it has a graphics card plugged in". AMD have a poor selection of chipsets with integrated graphics these days, so uATX boards are usually based on a very old 760G chipset.

    So the end result is that FM2 socket motherboards I tend to go for uATX as I think it is a nicer and more flexible form factor. Any AM3+ builds I have gone for ATX as they were the only boards I could find that I liked.

    The one I went for was this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-M5A97-E...dp/B008RPZ5H8/

    But if you have a uATX case, it won't fit

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    Installed all updates. windows is still slow, programs take 10 mins to open even small ones like paint! some programs will become unresponsive whilst loading up too.

    are you all saying to me these issues is because of the mobo being 95w?

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    You actually bought that motherboard?? I told you would have issues with it and the motherboard is based on an ancient chipset.

    Moreover you plonked in a 125W TDP class CPU into that motherboard,when there is no support:

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68-VS3%20FX/?cat=CPU

    You are very lucky the motherboard has throttled the CPU instead of the VRMs exploding and destroying the motherboard and CPU together.

    On OcUK there was a thread where the chap got a better motherboard and the issues with his FX8120 went away.

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

    I have the same mobo and it works well with a GTX 285 and a Sempron 145 overclocked and UUC'd to an Athlon II X2 4550e @ 3.5GHZ but even that doesn't exceed 81/82W!!

    I would recommend you send the 8350 and get an athlon X4 since most of them use less than 95W and they provide good enough performance

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    Re: N68-vs3 fx

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    I have the same mobo and it works well with a GTX 285 and a Sempron 145 overclocked and UUC'd to an Athlon II X2 4550e @ 3.5GHZ but even that doesn't exceed 81/82W!!

    I would recommend you send the 8350 and get an athlon X4 since most of them use less than 95W and they provide good enough performance

    CAT-THE-FIFTH: I have no limitations with the Nforce 630a in this motherboard except that there is limited overclocking (250MHz FSB max stable)
    The motherboard has a 3+1 phase VRM and it would be playing with fire running the FX8320 and FX8350 in it. The chipset is also ancient and does not support full HT speed with the newer CPUs.The X2 CPUs consume far less power and produce far less heat than an FX8350 - you are talking Phenom II X6 1100T levels in the latter case.

    My mate had an Athlon II X3 455 overclocked to 4GHZ and his FX6300 overclocked to 4.3GHZ was harder to cool and did consume more power. This is not surprising as the Phenom II X3 and X4 CPUs tended to consume more power than similar TDP Athlon II CPUs. Part of the reasons is due to the large amount of L3 cache in the Phenom II,and the FX series CPUs mirror the Phenom II CPUs in power consumption.

    The FX8350 is hitting the power consumption and TDP levels of Intel six core CPUs. If you look at the Intel socket 2011 motherboards,they all have much more substantial VRMs.

    AsRock used a 3+1 phase VRM on one of their socket FM2 motherboards and many of them had VRM failures with 100W TDP AMD A10 CPUs.

    I don't see the point of people wasting £40 to £50 on this motherboard when there are far better ones for a few quid more.
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