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To be honest most people have been unable to think more and see a much deeper meaning behind the film. Which is a shame but not a surprise as people these days just want to lie back and not have to 'think' when watching a movie.
Good article here: Provides some interesting concepts
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1
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I think a balance has to be struck between symbolism, back story etc. and performance. Prometheus missed that balance by a country mile.
I wasn't expecting a Schwarzenegger-style action movie, I like depth and I like thought-provoking films. Prometheus didn't deliver for me. Maybe I'm an uncultured hick but I thought the film lacked cohesion and it really didn't provide enough of a tie-in between any of the elements.
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Maybe the DC will add more?
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^^Maybe... It could be a film that I need to watch more than once..
There have been others like that for me, which have improved on multiple watches. I like re-reading books, as well. I'm prepared to try it but my first impression of the film was one of profound disappointment...
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Both my friend and I where very underwhelmed when leaving the cinema, it was quite frankly piss poor, but visually stunning!
Then I read that guys link, and comments about the whole 2,000 year thing and thought sheesh it was worse than I remembered.
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Just rewatched Event Horizon .... ... recommend to all.
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Just rewatched Event Horizon .... ... recommend to all.
Happy Nightmares tonight!! Great film
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Happy Nightmares tonight!! Great film
Superb film. Dunno why it got 6.5 on imdb and apparently was a box office flop raking in about $25m when it cost $60m to make and got -ve reviews when it first came out.
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And, pretty sure Dead Space 1 used that orb structure.
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FWIW, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I have the feeling that it's one of those films that was never going to live up to peoples' expectations and that it's had a real slagging as a consequence. I suspect that a lot of it's down to people "remembering with advantage" the first (two?) Alien films. I thought it was a heck of a lot better than 3 or Resurrection for a start, and while I would have liked a bit more character development I was happy enough with the balance struck between action and plot.
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I think a balance has to be struck between symbolism, back story etc. and performance. Prometheus missed that balance by a country mile.
I wasn't expecting a Schwarzenegger-style action movie, I like depth and I like thought-provoking films. Prometheus didn't deliver for me. Maybe I'm an uncultured hick but I thought the film lacked cohesion and it really didn't provide enough of a tie-in between any of the elements.
Its a pity Joseph Campbell wasnt still around I think George Lucas and many others owe him a large debt,because he had the whole art of storytelling and myth right down to a tee.
See for yourelf ( I highly recommend watching all of this - Moyers is great too )
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OK, I saw the film and have questions regarding various plot holes.
• So, that scene where the android activated the holograms of the spooked alien engineers running away from something, in the corridor into that room with the biological weapon canisters, what were they actually running away from, the Xenomorph Aliens? One could only assume that as previously they had seen those engraved hieroglyphs on the walls of what resembled a grotesque version of the Xenomorph Alien Queen and later on the 2 coward geologists found many corpses of the alien engineers with their chests burst open from the inside.
But if that is the case, then what happened to the xenomorph aliens that were chasing them and killed them?
• Where did that snake thing come from that killed the 2 geologists, as it wasn’t in that room when they 1st arrived and how did it survive thousands of years there without food, waiting for the humans to arrive?
• Why did they pat an unknown and probably hostile alien snake living inside a sinister cave, instead of running away from it like hell, when previously they had expressed their fear of staying there any more than the should, since it was above their field as geologists?
• In Alien 1, when Ripley’s crew arrived at the place and later on in Aliens 2 the terraforming colonists, how come no one noticed the human crash-landed escape pods and debris and that huge squid inside the pod that had devoured the alien engineer and what happened it?
• In Alien 1 film, the huge room filled with xenomorph eggs was it in a different unexplored compartment of the horse-shoe space-ship and was that a another space jockey with its chest burst open? Because in Prometheus, after the ship crashed, the space jockey left the ship and came after the woman protagonist to kill her, only to get crushed to death by her squid child.
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OK, I saw the film and have questions regarding various plot holes.
• Where did that snake thing come from that killed the 2 geologists, as it wasn’t in that room when they 1st arrived and how did it survive thousands of years there without food, waiting for the humans to arrive?
The black ooze from the 'pods' mutated the smaller worms in the dirt that you saw when they first entered the room. Given the growth rate of the xenomorph it's reasonable to presume the 'bioweapon' accelerated the mutation in such a short space of time.
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• Why did they pat an unknown and probably hostile alien snake living inside a sinister cave, instead of running away from it like hell, when previously they had expressed their fear of staying there any more than the should, since it was above their field as geologists?
It's a slightly thin explanation given that they chickened out of the whole 'alien encounter' opportunity but one of them is the team's biologist, hence his apparent eagerness to fondle a newly discovered life form.
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• In Alien 1, when Ripley’s crew arrived at the place and later on in Aliens 2 the terraforming colonists, how come no one noticed the human crash-landed escape pods and debris and that huge squid inside the pod that had devoured the alien engineer and what happened it?
Different planet, the one in Prometheus is LV-223, Alien (And Aliens) is LV-426.
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• In Alien 1 film, the huge room filled with xenomorph eggs was it in a different unexplored compartment of the horse-shoe space-ship and was that a another space jockey with its chest burst open? Because in Prometheus, after the ship crashed, the space jockey left the ship and came after the woman protagonist to kill her, only to get crushed to death by her squid child.
See above; the crashed 'horseshoe' ship on LV-426 in Alien/Aliens is not the one in Prometheus. The theory is that it may be one of the other ships (there were multiple 'bunkers' at the alien military installation) and since each of the ships had a crew in stasis it's reasonable to think that somehow one was awakened and ended up with a fully fledged xenomorph queen on board to lay the eggs.
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Wow, thanks for the straightforward answers!!
Interestingly enough both LV-426 & LV-223 are both moons orbiting of ringed gas giants.
Then this is not a prequel to Alien at all!
But if that is the case then who planted the warning beacon in Alien 1 on LV-426 that attracted Ripley's crew. We see at the end of Prometheus that Doctor Shaw plants a similar warning beacon on LV-223 just before she left the planet!! This is too similar to Alien and it makes no sense if its a different planet then!
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Oh~ I didn't know that they was different planets, I thought it was a prequel to Alien to explain the events before Alien.
Damn it.
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The warning signal received by the Nostromo in Alien wasn't necessarily of human origin. If you recall, it takes Ripley and Mother to 'decode' it in the first place. If it were human, it wouldn't have required such arduous translation.
It's more likely the warning beacon was from the horseshoe ship on LV-426 itself, set by the crew as they realized they had become infested with the very bioweapon they had been tasked to deliver. The warning was probably aimed at other Engineers to stop the xenomorph spreading (Which likely happened anyway)
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So basically this is what we learned from Prometheus! :D
http://www.pajiba.com/image/tumblr_m...iwq9o1_500.jpg
So that Alien bursting out of the engineer at the end is the pioneer of the Alien species?!
If that is the case, then the Alien Vs Predator films make absolutely no sense as they're supposed to take place decades before these events. And who planted those eggs in that other ship in LV-426, if the Aliens species had not been created yet?!
This whole story is a mess!